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Or indeed draw, presumably.

• Closi 5y ago
  Nope, the rules clearly state if you die you lose.
  • inglor_cz 5y ago
    What if both players die at the same time?
    • max-ibel 5y ago
      Somehow, this thought has me think of a hypothetical Agatha Christie novel.
    • bcraven 5y ago
      That question doesn't make any sense in a turn-based game.
      • inglor_cz 5y ago
        So the rule "whoever dies, loses" only applies to players whose turn it currently is? I thought it was a bit more universal.
        • ivalm 5y ago
          Yes, as they can no longer complete the current turn. Traditionally chess is played with time limits, so it makes sense that death causes the current turn, and only the current turn, player to lose.
          • inglor_cz 5y ago
            This is logical, but the situation when the other player dies needs some solution too. Because the living player finishes their turn and then ... what? There isn't even anyone to have a turn anymore. So for the sake of completeness, I would expect the rule to cover all deaths at the table.
            • ivalm 5y ago
              If the other player dies presumably you can pass the turn to them (and claim victory).
          • catillac 5y ago
            For practical purposes this is not correct though. It would be trivial for the person whose turn it is to make _any_ legal move to shift the current turn over to their now-deceased opponent and as such win the game.
            • tedunangst 5y ago
              Sounds like both players didn't die at the same time then.
              • Closi 5y ago
                I think there is an edge case where both people die at the same time, but one is about to make a move and drops the piece as they die, and it lands on the board. Is that move valid? Or not as they are already dead when it lands?
                • toast0 5y ago
                  Only the other player can challenge a move as illegal, right? If they're dead, they won't challenge and won't move, and thus lose?
                • LorenPechtel 5y ago
                  Typically there will be a clock involved, your move is completed when you push the button on the clock. Merely dropping a piece on the board doesn't complete your move. However, I can see a situation where the player dies and falls on the clock, pushing his button.
            • tzs 5y ago
              Making a move does not necessarily shift the turn to your opponent. You can have a position where all of your possible legal moves stalemate your opponent, in which case your move immediately ends that game and is the last move of the game. Tangentially, this reminds me of an amusing chess conundrum. Is it possible for a position to occur in a legal game of chess where all pieces and pawns are on the board, all of them are on their original squares, and white does not have the move? For purposes of this question, a knight or rook is considered to be on its original square either if it is on the square it started on or if it has swapped positions with the other knight or rook of the same color.
          • JonathanMerklin 5y ago
            I propose the alternative that death is instant disqualification regardless of game state, which incentivises murder as a strategy and adds an additional psychological tax but also a necessity to resolve disputes in a way that really makes the Han/Greedo distinction an important one and would make for a fun "spaghetti western involving but not necessarily for intellectuals" flick. (EDIT: I hope the jest is clear. Murder is bad.)
            • inglor_cz 5y ago
              Which in the context of chess is extra funny, as the game is basically an abstracted battlefield and losses of figures are abstracted deaths. Even the expression for the end of the game, shah mat = the king is dead (in Persian).
            • KineticLensman 5y ago
              > spaghetti western involving but not necessarily for intellectuals It would have be scored by Ennio Morricone, who was passionate about chess: "When I was a kid I had two ambitions, to become either a physician, or a chess player, not a musician." [0] [0] https://www.chess.com/blog/RoaringPawn/in-memoriam-ennio-morricone https://www.chess.com/blog/RoaringPawn/in-memoriam-ennio-mor...
        • evanb 5y ago
          If you see the other player die, you can make literally any legal move and win.
          • keketi 5y ago
            And so begun the feign death meta...
    • ALittleLight 5y ago
      I'd assume the player who could not complete their turn would be the losing player.