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> People will nitpick a little around the edges Sorry what? That is a comparison of highway miles with Autopilot (driver felt comfortable activating autopilot
by sidibe 5y ago
> People will nitpick a little around the edges
Sorry what? That is a comparison of highway miles with Autopilot (driver felt comfortable activating autopilot in that stretch) vs all miles in any situation. That's not a nitpick, it's a completely apples and oranges comparison.
And that's autopilot. If you watch a video with FSD beta you can't honestly say it's better than any sober humans who have driven for longer than a week.
- ajross 5y agoFSD beta has had no known accidents at all, though. The argument above was presuming that measurement and statistics can show whether a system is "safe" or not. If you refuse to accept that as an axiom I don't know how to reply. The question in the linked article we're discussing isn't whether Tesla FSD is "finished" as a product, or perfect, or whatever. It's simply whether or not we should allow it to be tested in a wide beta on public roads. And where's the evidence that we shouldn't?
- justinpombrio 5y ago> FSD beta has had no known accidents at all, though. Do you have a source on Tesla FSD? I don't know much about it. The basic info we'd need is number of fatalities, number of miles driven, and to check that these numbers mean roughly the right thing.
- ajross 5y agoYou want a source on the absence of evidence? I don't have that. No one has reported an accident to a FSD beta car anywhere I am aware of. The source is me.
- justinpombrio 5y agoYou are a fine source! So fatalities = 0. Any idea about miles driven, by Tesla FSD beta cars? Or is there no public info on that? If it was human drivers (in the US), you'd expect a fatality by around the 70 million mile mark. And fatalities caused by self-driving cars are very newsworthy, so you'd hear about it.