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If you are attempting to say that stricter guns laws lead to more firearm deaths, you would be quite wrong. California has one of the lowest rates per capita in

by sgc 5y ago

If you are attempting to say that stricter guns laws lead to more firearm deaths, you would be quite wrong. California has one of the lowest rates per capita in the US. This law needs some improvements for sure, but here are the CDC stats for the lowest 10 states (columns are deaths, population, and rate per 100k): Delaware (10) 93 973,764 9.6 Iowa (19) 294 3,155,070 9.3 Minnesota (27) 465 5,639,632 8.2 California (06) 2,945 39,512,223 7.5 Connecticut (09) 190 3,565,287 5.3 Rhode Island (44) 48 1,059,361 4.5 Hawaii (15) 62 1,415,872 4.4 New Jersey (34) 368 8,882,190 4.1 New York (36) 804 19,453,561 4.1 Massachusetts (25) 247 6,892,503 3.6 From http://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html http://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html

LinuxBender 5y ago
I don't count suicides. My state has a high alcohol consumption rate and high suicide rate (loneliness). Including only homicide, california is 3.19 per 100k and my state is 2.51 per 100k. Sadly I can't get it to drill down to my county. They also do not include justifiable homicide as a data point.
- sgc 5y ago
  Everybody else counts suicides. Also, not knowing your state I am willing bet there are confounding factors. The vast majority of firearm homicides are in urban areas. I am not going to be able to get the exact same figure as you since the way the search form is set up it is pretty easy to get slightly different numbers. But the only state from the last 3 years of data that would seem to fit your comment is Minnesota. Obviously if you move away from some of the largest metropolitan areas in the US crime rate goes down. But that does not even matter. California still falls in the bottom 8 states despite having several large, difficult metro areas, and the highest percentage of its population living in urban areas of any state, at 95%. In contrast, Minnesota is at 17th, with 73.3%.

by sgc 5y ago

LinuxBender 5y ago

I don't count suicides. My state has a high alcohol consumption rate and high suicide rate (loneliness). Including only homicide, california is 3.19 per 100k and my state is 2.51 per 100k. Sadly I can't get it to drill down to my county. They also do not include justifiable homicide as a data point.

sgc 5y ago
Everybody else counts suicides. Also, not knowing your state I am willing bet there are confounding factors. The vast majority of firearm homicides are in urban areas. I am not going to be able to get the exact same figure as you since the way the search form is set up it is pretty easy to get slightly different numbers. But the only state from the last 3 years of data that would seem to fit your comment is Minnesota. Obviously if you move away from some of the largest metropolitan areas in the US crime rate goes down. But that does not even matter. California still falls in the bottom 8 states despite having several large, difficult metro areas, and the highest percentage of its population living in urban areas of any state, at 95%. In contrast, Minnesota is at 17th, with 73.3%.