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Not fraud if they give you a free upgrade to more capable hardware. https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-computer https://www.tesla.com/support/full

• clouddrover 5y ago
  A free upgrade to hardware that's still not capable of full self driving. Tesla promised that full autonomy will enable a Tesla to be substantially safer than a human driver, lower the financial cost of transportation for those who own a car and provide low-cost on-demand mobility for those who do not. When will Tesla deliver what was paid for?
• bumby 5y ago
  I don’t know that I agree, especially if you used the previous software in a way that caused real harm or loss. Imagine you were a financial consulting firm and I sold you software that guaranteed that you could make 20% per year every year for your clients. But, oops, my software couldn’t do that initially and you lost millions of dollars, garnered a bad reputation, etc. Would it be okay if I eventually delivered an update that fulfilled that promise at a later date?
• sidibe 5y ago
  What if they don't deliver over the entire lifetime of the car (very likely)?
• yawaworht1978 5y ago
  Well, but where is the software? What is the cut off point for those who believe in musk's empty promises? 2 years? 5? What if it doesn't materialize and the first car nears end of life? Is the "ownership" transferable? At what point can someone say "not delivered as promised"? It seems like Tesla is investing more on promotion and marketing than the right thing, while others simply work on a solution silently. Wouldn't be surprised if Tesla won't be the first to market with fsd.