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What is even going on here? https://github.com/jorgebucaran/colorette/issues/78 https://github.com/jorgebucaran/colorette/issues/78. They're arguing about who s

What is even going on here? https://github.com/jorgebucaran/colorette/issues/78 https://github.com/jorgebucaran/colorette/issues/78. They're arguing about who should have attribution for adding a single "!s &&" to improve performance? What happened with the world where open-source was about creating cool projects together, not about who has the most stars on GitHub? To be honest, this is the general feeling I get from the JavaScript community: Instead of working together to improve existing projects it's all about launching new alternative packages and get everyone to switch to your new fancy project. This causes a never ending churn where we jump between (incompatible) libraries with very little actual improvements.

dandanua 5y ago
That's just bullying from Sitnik. Stealing the entire repository and then blaming the victim for stealing a few letters back.
- fffweiuh332 5y ago
  Sitnik is worse than Hitler
- iskin 5y ago
  I mentioned Colorette in docs and license even before this Twitter thread. Why is it a stealing?
riffraff 5y ago
Cascade of attention deficit[0]? JS is a vast ecosystem with little barriers to entry, and > Fixing bugs isn't fun; going through the bug list isn't fun; but rewriting everything from scratch is fun (because "this time it will be done right", ha ha) and so that's what happens, over and over again. I don't think there's anything malicious going on, except a lot of people doing JS. [0] https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
- enumjorge 5y ago
  > I don't think there's anything malicious going on The dev who copied the code forked someone’s repo, went out of his way to remove attribution and git history, sent PRs to replace the original package in other libraries with his own version, and when called out on it got defensive instead of apologizing. I think malicious is a fair way to describe his behavior.
  - cobby 5y ago
    > sent PRs to replace the original package in other libraries Would you mind sharing a link to such PR?
  - iskin 5y ago
    This is Nano Colors author. Even before this Twitter thread we had talk with Colorette author and I added mention to the docs, his name to LICENSE and promised him to not replace Colorette by Nano Colors. The Colorette mention was there 5 days ago.
    - noptd 5y ago
      >promised him to not replace Colorette by Nano Colors. And was that before or after you opened several PRs to replace Colorette with Nano Colors?
      - iskin 5y ago
        In my PRs I replace chalk to nanocolors
  - riffraff 5y ago
    I wasn't talking about the specific case, but about the general attitude of the JS ecosystem to replace a library very frequently.
notimrelakatos 5y ago
Behind the pretty facade there's a hyper competitive environment inside the JS community, sometimes with very low stakes. What's the incentive to fix fundamental issues if the metrics for success are stars and forks? The best way to avoid their insanity is to use JS as a target language, pick some of their good tools and move on with life, working with safer languages.
ulucs 5y ago
Holy shit that guy looks insufferable. At this point having PostCSS as a dependency just looks like a liability
- fffweiuh332 5y ago
  Yes you should remove that creepy dependency
richardfey 5y ago
GitHub should remove stars, it has become a petty metric.
dehrmann 5y ago
What's the term for when people with little to lose in low-stakes conflicts just have at it?
- Syzygies 5y ago
  I first encountered this in the basement A/V department at my high school.
deckard1 5y ago
> not about who has the most stars on GitHub? It's the Instagram-ification of the open source world. All of the feedback and social signaling mechanisms are there. Likes, stars, followers, and charts of "contributions". It's just an extension of LinkedIn for many people. Let's not forget the DigitalOcean Hacktoberfest debacle a few years ago. I still stumble upon repos with pull requests that contain nothing more than a single character change to a README. Just for a stupid SWAG t-shirt.
mrozbarry 5y ago
While I think you have a valid point about the javascript community reinventing the wheel often, the problem in this thread is simply that some people are inconsiderate, rude, and hostile, and that is in every software community and ecosystem in some way or another.

dandanua 5y ago

That's just bullying from Sitnik. Stealing the entire repository and then blaming the victim for stealing a few letters back.

fffweiuh332 5y ago
Sitnik is worse than Hitler
iskin 5y ago
I mentioned Colorette in docs and license even before this Twitter thread. Why is it a stealing?

riffraff 5y ago

Cascade of attention deficit[0]? JS is a vast ecosystem with little barriers to entry, and > Fixing bugs isn't fun; going through the bug list isn't fun; but rewriting everything from scratch is fun (because "this time it will be done right", ha ha) and so that's what happens, over and over again. I don't think there's anything malicious going on, except a lot of people doing JS. [0] https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html https://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html

enumjorge 5y ago
> I don't think there's anything malicious going on The dev who copied the code forked someone’s repo, went out of his way to remove attribution and git history, sent PRs to replace the original package in other libraries with his own version, and when called out on it got defensive instead of apologizing. I think malicious is a fair way to describe his behavior.
- cobby 5y ago
  > sent PRs to replace the original package in other libraries Would you mind sharing a link to such PR?
- iskin 5y ago
  This is Nano Colors author. Even before this Twitter thread we had talk with Colorette author and I added mention to the docs, his name to LICENSE and promised him to not replace Colorette by Nano Colors. The Colorette mention was there 5 days ago.
  - noptd 5y ago
    >promised him to not replace Colorette by Nano Colors. And was that before or after you opened several PRs to replace Colorette with Nano Colors?
    - iskin 5y ago
      In my PRs I replace chalk to nanocolors
- riffraff 5y ago
  I wasn't talking about the specific case, but about the general attitude of the JS ecosystem to replace a library very frequently.

notimrelakatos 5y ago

Behind the pretty facade there's a hyper competitive environment inside the JS community, sometimes with very low stakes. What's the incentive to fix fundamental issues if the metrics for success are stars and forks? The best way to avoid their insanity is to use JS as a target language, pick some of their good tools and move on with life, working with safer languages.

ulucs 5y ago

Holy shit that guy looks insufferable. At this point having PostCSS as a dependency just looks like a liability

fffweiuh332 5y ago
Yes you should remove that creepy dependency

richardfey 5y ago

GitHub should remove stars, it has become a petty metric.

dehrmann 5y ago

What's the term for when people with little to lose in low-stakes conflicts just have at it?

Syzygies 5y ago
I first encountered this in the basement A/V department at my high school.

deckard1 5y ago

> not about who has the most stars on GitHub? It's the Instagram-ification of the open source world. All of the feedback and social signaling mechanisms are there. Likes, stars, followers, and charts of "contributions". It's just an extension of LinkedIn for many people. Let's not forget the DigitalOcean Hacktoberfest debacle a few years ago. I still stumble upon repos with pull requests that contain nothing more than a single character change to a README. Just for a stupid SWAG t-shirt.

mrozbarry 5y ago

While I think you have a valid point about the javascript community reinventing the wheel often, the problem in this thread is simply that some people are inconsiderate, rude, and hostile, and that is in every software community and ecosystem in some way or another.