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There is an explanation using some old stereotypes, to connect with others: Men share their knowledge and ideas. Women share their emotions and feelings.

watwut 5y ago
If you follow this, you won't be able to relate to neither men nor woman. Womens knowledge and ideas will be ignored and so will be males feelings.
mkr-hn 5y ago
Men tend to get dumped, mocked, or injured if they share their feelings, while women tend to get dumped or mocked if they share their knowledge and ideas. Isn't it handy that stereotypes align with the mechanisms that enforce them? It's nothing innate. None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people, so we tend to just get shoved into whatever box is most convenient for the person on the other side.
- CapricornNoble 5y ago
  >>>None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people Isn't that tautological though? Why would a simplified characterization applicable to the mass of normies contain guidance equally suitable for the small percentage of divergent edge cases?
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    You responded to a sentence. There's a whole post there where I state how the advice is bad for people inside and outside the binary. /u/graycat's advice is bad for everyone.
- trentnix 5y ago
  None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people Looks like quite the stereotype you've identified "nonbinary people". You'd do well to start comparing yourself to actual people instead of the stereotypes you have of them.
  - true_religion 5y ago
    The logic that OP was arguing against is that stereotypes are edifying in terms of gender. They are right that if you do not match either of the stereotyped genders then you can’t learn from gender stereotypes. Sure, it’s better to learn from people in a holistic non stereotyped sense but that is not what was being suggested.
  - mkr-hn 5y ago
    I can't make sense of your comment. The only read I can come up with is that you're saying I'm not a person, and I doubt that's what you mean. What are you trying to say?
everybodyknows 5y ago
There's is a simple physiological component behind that, in testosterone and estrogen. Later in life now, hormone levels declining, I'm seeing some convergence.

watwut 5y ago

If you follow this, you won't be able to relate to neither men nor woman. Womens knowledge and ideas will be ignored and so will be males feelings.

mkr-hn 5y ago

Men tend to get dumped, mocked, or injured if they share their feelings, while women tend to get dumped or mocked if they share their knowledge and ideas. Isn't it handy that stereotypes align with the mechanisms that enforce them? It's nothing innate. None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people, so we tend to just get shoved into whatever box is most convenient for the person on the other side.

CapricornNoble 5y ago
>>>None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people Isn't that tautological though? Why would a simplified characterization applicable to the mass of normies contain guidance equally suitable for the small percentage of divergent edge cases?
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  You responded to a sentence. There's a whole post there where I state how the advice is bad for people inside and outside the binary. /u/graycat's advice is bad for everyone.
trentnix 5y ago
None of these stereotypes have any guidance for nonbinary people Looks like quite the stereotype you've identified "nonbinary people". You'd do well to start comparing yourself to actual people instead of the stereotypes you have of them.
- true_religion 5y ago
  The logic that OP was arguing against is that stereotypes are edifying in terms of gender. They are right that if you do not match either of the stereotyped genders then you can’t learn from gender stereotypes. Sure, it’s better to learn from people in a holistic non stereotyped sense but that is not what was being suggested.
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  I can't make sense of your comment. The only read I can come up with is that you're saying I'm not a person, and I doubt that's what you mean. What are you trying to say?

everybodyknows 5y ago

There's is a simple physiological component behind that, in testosterone and estrogen. Later in life now, hormone levels declining, I'm seeing some convergence.