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Ingmar Bergman was quite an interesting character. From his wikipedia page: "His father was a conservative parish minister with strict ideas of parenting. Ingm

by xrd 5y ago

Ingmar Bergman was quite an interesting character. From his wikipedia page: "His father was a conservative parish minister with strict ideas of parenting. Ingmar was locked up in dark closets for infractions such as wetting himself." I came to find out how his own marriage went. At first, I thought the only reference to his wife was that his name were inscribed under his wife's tomb several years before his death. But, that was because I assumed his film listing would come after his personal life. Scrolling down shows that he was married five times.

rsync 5y ago
Was this generated with GPT-3 ?
- wyldfire 5y ago
  It seems topical and coherent, why do you think it is artificial?
  - mlyle 5y ago
    I'm not the parent poster, but-- It's all topical and coherent, but the text flits between loosely connected points rather abruptly. I had to read it twice before it made any sense. I could see why it would trigger one to think it might be artificial.
    - bdcravens 5y ago
      It made sense to me the first time I read it. Perhaps I'm an AI lol
  - d3nj4l 5y ago
    Something about the structure of the paragraph after the quote makes it hard to follow. I think it's this bit: I thought the only reference to his wife was (x). But, that was because (y). The paragraph is structured as if y explains x, but in fact y explains the entirety of the first sentence instead. It's easy to get tripped up, wonder what the link is, and then associate it with the characteristic schizophrenia of AI generated text.
    - wyldfire 5y ago
      > the characteristic schizophrenia of AI generated text. Maybe it's a well-modeled AI and they occasionally reflect the style of human-generated comments like these.
- dwohnitmok 5y ago
  I think xrd is alluding to Bergman's TV series being a reflection of Bergman's own marital woes (or vice versa), so no I don't think that reply was generated by GPT-3. Nonetheless I find it amusing that failing the reverse Turing test is becoming commonplace.
- TimTheTinker 5y ago
  I'm not the most academic in the world, but in his own terms, his biography is a bit of an oddball. The subject matter, the plot, the writing are rather convoluted, and the plot never has any basis in actuality or character, but with this he seemed to be an unlikely candidate for the role "Aged 12-18". [generated by GPT-2]
- yodon 5y ago
  As with the HN rule to not accuse the writer of not having read the article, I fear we're moving towards a point where we will need a similar rule that discourages people from accusing others of being GPT3 (seriously, going beyond the obviously insulting aspect of the accusation, why would anyone bother to do that - the economic value of a fictitiously constructed HN account is negligible at best)
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    > why would anyone bother to do that - the economic value of a fictitiously constructed HN account is negligible at best Here's the real GPT-3 bot, trained squarely on The Economist articles from 1995 on, with a universe model entirely based on economic values and transactions. A month or so ago, a french presidential candidate said something like "we have too many male engineers building nuclear reactors and not enough female witches casting spells" and I thought that was bullshit, but people like you honestly make me reconsider it.
- mkl 5y ago
  That's a real Wikipedia quote, so that doesn't seem possible.
- xrd 5y ago
  To be honest, I cannot be sure I'm not AI inside a virtual world. It all feels really "real" to me, but that could be because the model was trained really, really well. Having gotten that out of the way, I originally made a grandiloquent statement about his wikipedia page not having any information about his marital life, because I thought when I saw the film listings that that was the end of the entry. I feel like it is typical that wikipedia pages give the full course of the person's life before summarizing their creative output, but I don't really know if that assumption is true. When I re-read the page and scrolled down, I realized there was a whole section of information about his married life, so I edited the comment. I should have indicated I edited it. This is one of my favorite personal threads on HN, I have to say. The digital world we live is such that we cannot tell if a few sentences belong to a GPT-3, a schizophrenic, or just a bad writer with run-on sentences. My mantra lately is what would a crazy person do in this world, because I'm definitely feeling like that's the only sure fire safe route to take.
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rsync 5y ago

Was this generated with GPT-3 ?

wyldfire 5y ago
It seems topical and coherent, why do you think it is artificial?
- mlyle 5y ago
  I'm not the parent poster, but-- It's all topical and coherent, but the text flits between loosely connected points rather abruptly. I had to read it twice before it made any sense. I could see why it would trigger one to think it might be artificial.
  - bdcravens 5y ago
    It made sense to me the first time I read it. Perhaps I'm an AI lol
- d3nj4l 5y ago
  Something about the structure of the paragraph after the quote makes it hard to follow. I think it's this bit: I thought the only reference to his wife was (x). But, that was because (y). The paragraph is structured as if y explains x, but in fact y explains the entirety of the first sentence instead. It's easy to get tripped up, wonder what the link is, and then associate it with the characteristic schizophrenia of AI generated text.
  - wyldfire 5y ago
    > the characteristic schizophrenia of AI generated text. Maybe it's a well-modeled AI and they occasionally reflect the style of human-generated comments like these.
dwohnitmok 5y ago
I think xrd is alluding to Bergman's TV series being a reflection of Bergman's own marital woes (or vice versa), so no I don't think that reply was generated by GPT-3. Nonetheless I find it amusing that failing the reverse Turing test is becoming commonplace.
TimTheTinker 5y ago
I'm not the most academic in the world, but in his own terms, his biography is a bit of an oddball. The subject matter, the plot, the writing are rather convoluted, and the plot never has any basis in actuality or character, but with this he seemed to be an unlikely candidate for the role "Aged 12-18". [generated by GPT-2]
yodon 5y ago
As with the HN rule to not accuse the writer of not having read the article, I fear we're moving towards a point where we will need a similar rule that discourages people from accusing others of being GPT3 (seriously, going beyond the obviously insulting aspect of the accusation, why would anyone bother to do that - the economic value of a fictitiously constructed HN account is negligible at best)
- jcelerier 5y ago
  > why would anyone bother to do that - the economic value of a fictitiously constructed HN account is negligible at best Here's the real GPT-3 bot, trained squarely on The Economist articles from 1995 on, with a universe model entirely based on economic values and transactions. A month or so ago, a french presidential candidate said something like "we have too many male engineers building nuclear reactors and not enough female witches casting spells" and I thought that was bullshit, but people like you honestly make me reconsider it.
mkl 5y ago
That's a real Wikipedia quote, so that doesn't seem possible.
xrd 5y ago
To be honest, I cannot be sure I'm not AI inside a virtual world. It all feels really "real" to me, but that could be because the model was trained really, really well. Having gotten that out of the way, I originally made a grandiloquent statement about his wikipedia page not having any information about his marital life, because I thought when I saw the film listings that that was the end of the entry. I feel like it is typical that wikipedia pages give the full course of the person's life before summarizing their creative output, but I don't really know if that assumption is true. When I re-read the page and scrolled down, I realized there was a whole section of information about his married life, so I edited the comment. I should have indicated I edited it. This is one of my favorite personal threads on HN, I have to say. The digital world we live is such that we cannot tell if a few sentences belong to a GPT-3, a schizophrenic, or just a bad writer with run-on sentences. My mantra lately is what would a crazy person do in this world, because I'm definitely feeling like that's the only sure fire safe route to take.

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