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Determinism is irrelevant. You can use stochastic equations to simulate human behavior if there are quantum effects involved. Consciousness is more interesting
by canjobear 5y ago
Determinism is irrelevant. You can use stochastic equations to simulate human behavior if there are quantum effects involved.
Consciousness is more interesting, and it boils down to the claim that there is something metaphysically and unverifiably (from the outside) special about humans. That sounds supernatural to me.
- blix 5y agoIt sounds to me that you are arguing that consciousness fundementally doesn't exist; what we think of consciousness is an emergent property of fundementally determinable physical rules. If this is the case why are you arguing on HN? Is it possible for you to leave the discussion? Is talking to you the same as dropping a ball and watching gravity pull it downwards? I'm a little skeptical of your stochastic model of humanity as well. Statistical mechanics works because oxygen molecules don't go off and start religions and convince other oxygen molecules to behave radically differently for thousands of years (or at least we haven't ever seen it). In fact our stoachstic physical models, classical, semi-classical and quantum, kinda specifically preclude this. How would you design an equation to capture this real phenomenon in humans?
- Jensson 5y ago> You can use stochastic equations to simulate human behavior if there are quantum effects involved. No you cannot, quantum effects are way more complex than just random chance effects. The quantum waves are particles in their own rights that flows and interacts with each other and itself, if you treat it as just a stochastic variable you don't get quantum effects.
- canjobear 5y agoYou just use the Born rule to get your probabilities from the wave function…