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No, insulting the President is an offense. Typical hypocrisy + lying by the French government. https://www.timesofisrael.com/frenchman-fined-for-billboard-depi

No, insulting the President is an offense. Typical hypocrisy + lying by the French government. https://www.timesofisrael.com/frenchman-fined-for-billboard-depicting-macron-as-hitler-to-protest-covid-rules/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/frenchman-fined-for-billboard-... About the hijab. You say "Simply enforce these principles". Yes, and these principles are intolerant, which is my point. And this pick-and-choosing secularism when convenient, is a type of opression.

hota_mazi 5y ago
I guess you could say they are intolerant of all religions, but that's a stretch. The bottom line is that all displays of religion are banned in French schools, which puts everyone on an equal footing. Even religious people should see the value of that, especially if you're part of a minority religion. Schools are places where you learn, not practice religion. That's what places of worship are for.
- truetraveller 5y ago
  > I guess you could say they are intolerant of all religions Yes, intolerant. But also hypocritical (see the Macron's hypocrisy of free speech). > which puts everyone on an equal footing It does not. Some religions mandate certain attire. And certain religions / atheism does not. So, it is not fair for a student to be denied practicing his/her religion, if his/her religion mandates the head scarf. While an atheist has no worry, since he/she has not religous command to wear a certain attire. > Schools are places where you learn, not practice religion Who is any person or government to dictate this to me? If I want to voluntarily do something peaceful, I should be able to. What's next, "homes are for living, not religion".
  - hota_mazi 5y ago
    > Who is any person or government to dictate this to me? Nobody is forcing anyone to attend public school. Send your kids to a private school if you want. But if you want to benefit from what public schools have to offer, you have to abide by their rules. And one of them is that expression of religion is banned there. In much the same way that a guest to your house would have to abide by your rules.
  - rsj_hn 5y ago
    > But if you want to benefit from what public schools have to offer, you have to abide by their rules. And one of them is that expression of religion is banned there. Not in the USA. In this country it's constitutionally protected.

hota_mazi 5y ago

I guess you could say they are intolerant of all religions, but that's a stretch. The bottom line is that all displays of religion are banned in French schools, which puts everyone on an equal footing. Even religious people should see the value of that, especially if you're part of a minority religion. Schools are places where you learn, not practice religion. That's what places of worship are for.

truetraveller 5y ago
> I guess you could say they are intolerant of all religions Yes, intolerant. But also hypocritical (see the Macron's hypocrisy of free speech). > which puts everyone on an equal footing It does not. Some religions mandate certain attire. And certain religions / atheism does not. So, it is not fair for a student to be denied practicing his/her religion, if his/her religion mandates the head scarf. While an atheist has no worry, since he/she has not religous command to wear a certain attire. > Schools are places where you learn, not practice religion Who is any person or government to dictate this to me? If I want to voluntarily do something peaceful, I should be able to. What's next, "homes are for living, not religion".
- hota_mazi 5y ago
  > Who is any person or government to dictate this to me? Nobody is forcing anyone to attend public school. Send your kids to a private school if you want. But if you want to benefit from what public schools have to offer, you have to abide by their rules. And one of them is that expression of religion is banned there. In much the same way that a guest to your house would have to abide by your rules.
- rsj_hn 5y ago
  > But if you want to benefit from what public schools have to offer, you have to abide by their rules. And one of them is that expression of religion is banned there. Not in the USA. In this country it's constitutionally protected.