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You seem determined to ignore murders spiked in places unlike Seattle last year too. And how does your hypothesis explain less total violent crime? You haven't

You seem determined to ignore murders spiked in places unlike Seattle last year too. And how does your hypothesis explain less total violent crime? You haven't shown the city council embraced defunding the police either. They cut a fraction of a percent from the police budget last year. Lots of cities had to make cuts to lots of departments. The $5.4 million the article said they fought about this year is under 2%. And it's just what the police spent over budget last year.[1] [1] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-police-have-exceeded-overtime-budget-city-council-will-consider-additional-cut-next-year/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-p...

angelzen 5y ago
I am hypothesizing that the answer to the spike in murder is multivariate, with the largest two components being 'defund the police' and lockdowns. You seem determined to ignore that the City Council did embrace 'defund the police', specifically a veto proof majority did vouch to pass a resolution to slash police funding by 50%. They eventually failed to pass it for whatever political reasons, but the intent is plain and clear. As a result police officers are resigning en-mass to distance themselves from the insanity. Perhaps you have an alternate explanation for the police exodus, please do share. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-police-department-defund-reform https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-poli...
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  You understand the other articles didn't mention anything like that, right? You can't expect other people to try harder than you to find evidence for your claims. Fort Worth increased police funding and had a larger murder rate increase than Seattle.[1] And I don't think Texas had stricter restrictions than Washington. That's just 1 example. The summer protests kicked off the discussions about defunding police. Murder rates were higher already.[2] The AP article said city council policies were 1 of 3 reasons Seattle police said they quit. A so called anti police climate in the city was another. Disagreements with department leadership was the last. It's worth noting they're under federal oversight for excessive force since 2012. They seem unwilling to admit they have a problem. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-crime-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-cri...

angelzen 5y ago

I am hypothesizing that the answer to the spike in murder is multivariate, with the largest two components being 'defund the police' and lockdowns. You seem determined to ignore that the City Council did embrace 'defund the police', specifically a veto proof majority did vouch to pass a resolution to slash police funding by 50%. They eventually failed to pass it for whatever political reasons, but the intent is plain and clear. As a result police officers are resigning en-mass to distance themselves from the insanity. Perhaps you have an alternate explanation for the police exodus, please do share. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-police-department-defund-reform https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-poli...

pseudalopex 5y ago
You understand the other articles didn't mention anything like that, right? You can't expect other people to try harder than you to find evidence for your claims. Fort Worth increased police funding and had a larger murder rate increase than Seattle.[1] And I don't think Texas had stricter restrictions than Washington. That's just 1 example. The summer protests kicked off the discussions about defunding police. Murder rates were higher already.[2] The AP article said city council policies were 1 of 3 reasons Seattle police said they quit. A so called anti police climate in the city was another. Disagreements with department leadership was the last. It's worth noting they're under federal oversight for excessive force since 2012. They seem unwilling to admit they have a problem. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-crime-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-cri...