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Remember that bat cave in Yunnan (specifically Mojiang) which supposedly had also similar viruses? Right on the border of Laos. What's weird is that nobody tal

Remember that bat cave in Yunnan (specifically Mojiang) which supposedly had also similar viruses? Right on the border of Laos. What's weird is that nobody talks about WHY Shi Zheng-Li/"Bat Woman" was digging around random caves in Yunnan. She was sent to investigate a lethal outbreak with CFR of 50%. "Lethal Pneumonia Cases in Mojiang Miners (2012)" https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.702199/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.7021... https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bat-cave-solves-mystery-of-deadly-sars-virus/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bat-cave-solves-m... https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698 https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/j...

kortex 5y ago
I'm still surprised very few sources are talking about the third possible origin - WIV scientist(s) contracted COVID19 when doing research in/near bat caves with insufficient PPE. You see researchers wearing what look like surgical masks, which is likely insufficient. And this is post-Covid Chinese media, so it's probably sugar coated. I remember reading a translated article (sadly can't find it at the moment) which reported lab techs in Yunnan working in terrible conditions, getting bat urine and blood on them trying to catch bats, with barely adequate masks and goggles. https://algulf.net/2021/06/09/2019-video-shows-wuhan-scientists-collect-samples-from-bat-caves/ https://algulf.net/2021/06/09/2019-video-shows-wuhan-scienti...
jml7c5 5y ago
>What's weird is that nobody talks about WHY Shi Zheng-Li/"Bat Woman" was digging around random caves in Yunnan. She is an expert on SARS-like viruses, and her research focus is on the threat of zoonotic spillover from bats. One would expect her to be involved in the investigation of an apparent zoonotic spillover from bats that causes SARS-like symptoms. Hell, it would be weird if she wasn't part of the investigation.
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  Of course she was involved. She published a paper on it. The weird part is how hushed up it is. Nobody talks about the 2012 outbreak, even though it was supposedly a very similar virus, and they already talked about the Yunnan caves. Just can't talk about the outbreak? Why?

kortex 5y ago

I'm still surprised very few sources are talking about the third possible origin - WIV scientist(s) contracted COVID19 when doing research in/near bat caves with insufficient PPE. You see researchers wearing what look like surgical masks, which is likely insufficient. And this is post-Covid Chinese media, so it's probably sugar coated. I remember reading a translated article (sadly can't find it at the moment) which reported lab techs in Yunnan working in terrible conditions, getting bat urine and blood on them trying to catch bats, with barely adequate masks and goggles. https://algulf.net/2021/06/09/2019-video-shows-wuhan-scientists-collect-samples-from-bat-caves/ https://algulf.net/2021/06/09/2019-video-shows-wuhan-scienti...

jml7c5 5y ago

>What's weird is that nobody talks about WHY Shi Zheng-Li/"Bat Woman" was digging around random caves in Yunnan. She is an expert on SARS-like viruses, and her research focus is on the threat of zoonotic spillover from bats. One would expect her to be involved in the investigation of an apparent zoonotic spillover from bats that causes SARS-like symptoms. Hell, it would be weird if she wasn't part of the investigation.

inter_netuser 5y ago
Of course she was involved. She published a paper on it. The weird part is how hushed up it is. Nobody talks about the 2012 outbreak, even though it was supposedly a very similar virus, and they already talked about the Yunnan caves. Just can't talk about the outbreak? Why?