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>> The number of developers is currently larger than the population of Australia, growing faster than the population of Brazil, and set to exceed the population

>> The number of developers is currently larger than the population of Australia, growing faster than the population of Brazil, and set to exceed the population of Canada. Does this count the 6 people I interviewed this year that couldn't fizzbuz?

willcipriano 5y ago
"Started in 2006, and published twice a year, it provides the most comprehensive, current, detailed data on the state of the developer population. It includes information on the total number of developers in the world, as well as on the total number of developers involved in specific technology areas. This report combines EDC’s proprietary global developer population model with selected findings from EDC’s semi-annual Global Development Survey."[0] Looks like it depends on how "EDC’s proprietary global developer population model" works. [0]https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9 https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9
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vkou 5y ago
And more importantly, how does that number compare to the number of golf balls that can be fit into a 747?
- nicbou 5y ago
  You can fit far fewer than a million developers in a 747
phkahler 5y ago
>> Does this count the 6 people I interviewed this year that couldn't fizzbuz? Yes. The bell curve for software developers is very wide. The 10x developers are real, they're way out there - maybe 2 standard deviations from average. The "can't fizzbuzz" crowd is large, probably only 1 standard deviation (or less) below average.
- danbmil99 5y ago
  1 out of 6 programmers can't solve fizzbuzz? That seems way too harsh. 2 standard deviations would mean 2.5%, or 1 in 40 -- that seems more likely, at least in my DX
  - vikingerik 5y ago
    This is a well-known sampling bias. The number of interview candidates who can't solve fizzbuzz is very high, because those are the people who aren't in jobs and are therefore interviewing. Interview candidates are a skewed sample of the entire population.
LurkingPenguin 5y ago
> Does this count the 6 people I interviewed this year that couldn't fizzbuz? No, but it does count the 1 guy who started a Shopify store and has made 6 figures selling "Do u even fizzbuzz bro?" t-shirts.

willcipriano 5y ago

"Started in 2006, and published twice a year, it provides the most comprehensive, current, detailed data on the state of the developer population. It includes information on the total number of developers in the world, as well as on the total number of developers involved in specific technology areas. This report combines EDC’s proprietary global developer population model with selected findings from EDC’s semi-annual Global Development Survey."[0] Looks like it depends on how "EDC’s proprietary global developer population model" works. [0]https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9 https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9

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vkou 5y ago

And more importantly, how does that number compare to the number of golf balls that can be fit into a 747?

nicbou 5y ago
You can fit far fewer than a million developers in a 747

phkahler 5y ago

>> Does this count the 6 people I interviewed this year that couldn't fizzbuz? Yes. The bell curve for software developers is very wide. The 10x developers are real, they're way out there - maybe 2 standard deviations from average. The "can't fizzbuzz" crowd is large, probably only 1 standard deviation (or less) below average.

danbmil99 5y ago
1 out of 6 programmers can't solve fizzbuzz? That seems way too harsh. 2 standard deviations would mean 2.5%, or 1 in 40 -- that seems more likely, at least in my DX
- vikingerik 5y ago
  This is a well-known sampling bias. The number of interview candidates who can't solve fizzbuzz is very high, because those are the people who aren't in jobs and are therefore interviewing. Interview candidates are a skewed sample of the entire population.

LurkingPenguin 5y ago

> Does this count the 6 people I interviewed this year that couldn't fizzbuz? No, but it does count the 1 guy who started a Shopify store and has made 6 figures selling "Do u even fizzbuzz bro?" t-shirts.