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Yuck… So this pixar 3D crap is what’s called “cartoons” nowadays.

by aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago

peter-m80 5y ago
Is Pixar 3D crap?
- aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
  Compared to real handdrawn cartoons? Yes. Soulless, uniform, factory-produced crap.
  - ChrisClark 5y ago
    Now get off my lawn!
  - codetrotter 5y ago
    Did someone say factory-produced? I love the classical animations too, but you are aware of this right?: https://youtu.be/hjmaOj3_sKk https://youtu.be/hjmaOj3_sKk :^)
    - mongol 5y ago
      Looks like it was mainly Robin Hood that was taking the cheap way out. And Aristocats? I think that was during a low point of Disney animations.
      - codetrotter 5y ago
        Here’s a comprehensive overview, including both the full length movies that you saw in that YouTube video and a lot of shorter animations that were reused. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_recycled_animation_in_Disney_movies https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_recycled_animation_in... Definitely something they did quite a bit more than just a couple of times. Not saying there’s anything “wrong” with that per se btw. Just found it relevant to the discussion about comparing modern animation to factory output.
  - krapp 5y ago
    >factory-produced crap. Wait until you find out how hand-drawn animation is made.
    - vlunkr 5y ago
      A quick Google shows that hand drawn animation has been outsourced since the 60s.
      - krapp 5y ago
        Yes. Mostly to high-volume animation sweatshops, aka "soulless, uniform factory production."
  - steve_adams_86 5y ago
    From a technical and artistic perspective, I can’t think of much to criticize. I think of us as fortunate to have such incredible accomplishments in story telling and presentation. There are modern 3d movies I particularly dislike and many I don’t like or love. I just don’t agree that the medium is innately lacking.
ergot_vacation 5y ago
Well, really "Pixar." Pixar at least knew how leverage their weird style; everyone else ran with it and made it god awful. But my thought exactly. Why even do this with something that's so offensively awful to look at? That gripe aside, if you're just training on a bunch of headshots and generating new ones, it's been done, over and over at this point. Want to impress? Figure out how to generate a full sequence of coherent animation frames.
colordrops 5y ago
Yeah, it's all the same look. Not much experimentation or creativity at all when it comes to character design, at least for human characters.

Yuck… So this pixar 3D crap is what’s called “cartoons” nowadays.

peter-m80 5y ago

Is Pixar 3D crap?

aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
Compared to real handdrawn cartoons? Yes. Soulless, uniform, factory-produced crap.
- ChrisClark 5y ago
  Now get off my lawn!
- codetrotter 5y ago
  Did someone say factory-produced? I love the classical animations too, but you are aware of this right?: https://youtu.be/hjmaOj3_sKk https://youtu.be/hjmaOj3_sKk :^)
  - mongol 5y ago
    Looks like it was mainly Robin Hood that was taking the cheap way out. And Aristocats? I think that was during a low point of Disney animations.
    - codetrotter 5y ago
      Here’s a comprehensive overview, including both the full length movies that you saw in that YouTube video and a lot of shorter animations that were reused. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_recycled_animation_in_Disney_movies https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_recycled_animation_in... Definitely something they did quite a bit more than just a couple of times. Not saying there’s anything “wrong” with that per se btw. Just found it relevant to the discussion about comparing modern animation to factory output.
- krapp 5y ago
  >factory-produced crap. Wait until you find out how hand-drawn animation is made.
  - vlunkr 5y ago
    A quick Google shows that hand drawn animation has been outsourced since the 60s.
    - krapp 5y ago
      Yes. Mostly to high-volume animation sweatshops, aka "soulless, uniform factory production."
- steve_adams_86 5y ago
  From a technical and artistic perspective, I can’t think of much to criticize. I think of us as fortunate to have such incredible accomplishments in story telling and presentation. There are modern 3d movies I particularly dislike and many I don’t like or love. I just don’t agree that the medium is innately lacking.

ergot_vacation 5y ago

Well, really "Pixar." Pixar at least knew how leverage their weird style; everyone else ran with it and made it god awful. But my thought exactly. Why even do this with something that's so offensively awful to look at? That gripe aside, if you're just training on a bunch of headshots and generating new ones, it's been done, over and over at this point. Want to impress? Figure out how to generate a full sequence of coherent animation frames.

colordrops 5y ago

Yeah, it's all the same look. Not much experimentation or creativity at all when it comes to character design, at least for human characters.