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The problem is all-encompassing selfishness. I remember (being gen X), that they said that about my generation, but I've never seen anything like what I see now

The problem is all-encompassing selfishness. I remember (being gen X), that they said that about my generation, but I've never seen anything like what I see now. Pretending to act on someone's behalf while belittling them (a recent case being changing Lantio/Latina to latinX because virtue signalling), all the lies everywhere (look at this perfect sponsored life I live). My city now sports nothing but black flags and stickers, or thin blue line flags. BLM were bullied from showing support publicly. People would rather complain than help the homeless. Home owners will screw over the rest of society to protect their 'investment'. Businesses treat their employees worse than ever while paying them the lowest ever. The rich oay nothing in taxes. The list goes on and on. The Internet isn't making people crazy. People have been fucking crazy this just lets them have the aforementioned megaphone. The solution at this point is starting over.

krapp 5y ago
>The solution at this point is starting over. If you don't like what the mirror shows you, breaking the mirror or replacing it won't solve the problem.
- effingwewt 5y ago
  Every one of our institutions is rotten to the core, none of it can be fixed as they all have evolved to protect themselves. Budgets are maxed to ensure more funding, education is terrible. Truly, I'm down to get together with some people, buy an island, and start from scratch. Putting bandaids on squirting arteries does nothing.
  - krapp 5y ago
    Okay, okay. Ease up there, edgelord.
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      Twice now you came at me with ad hominem and nothing substantive, but I'm the edgelord. Refute a point or move along.
      - krapp 5y ago
        > Twice now you came at me with ad hominem and nothing substantive, but I'm the edgelord. Yes, you are the edgelord. You literally refer to yourself as a jaded asshole in your profile, so don't be upset when people choose to see you as the persona you present. You get what you give. >Refute a point or move along. "Every one of our institutions is rotten to the core, none of it can be fixed as they all have evolved to protect themselves" is low-effort juvenile cynicism and hyperbole that deserves no more than the snarky dismissal I gave it. You're not making substantive, intelligent arguments in this thread, nor are you making thoughtful replies to anyone else. The only refutation I can offer is that you mature emotionally and stop seeing the world in such narrow-minded and reductionist terms. Assuming you're not just shitposting, I mean. And you don't get to tell me where to go.
        effingwewt 5y ago
        Wow so just more ad hominem and still nothing to rebutt. Get over yourself. You don't get to lecture me on hiw to treat people when you came at me unbidden and for no better reason than to talk shit.
jungturk 5y ago
I can appreciate how daunting the challenge seems to get from what we see around us to the ideal we have in mind, but if its any consolation - this is the kindest the planet has ever been (which admittedly might not be saying much). More people have access to transformative resources than has ever been the case. All the ills around you were even worse in the past and its only the incremental efforts of the decent that have gotten us to these heights. We haven't fallen from grace - we're rising out of the muck.
- effingwewt 5y ago
  I disagree this is the kindest earth, it's just hidden better now. We kill/harm each other at record rates. We are sinking into the muck, using wet naps to clean our eyes to pretend we are making things better.
  - prox 5y ago
    I am pretty sure this is not the case. We have less wars than we ever had, and people aren’t dying by the millions anymore in the industrial Revolution of the 19th century. So please elucidate where you think we are killing eachother at record rates, because I don’t think that is the case.
    - effingwewt 5y ago
      Less wars!= less killing. We have mass shootings, military coups, genocides, we fight over resources already. Murder rates in the use rose what 20% in 2020? Need I go on? I'd ask instead what good do you think we humans are doing, and further if you believe it outweighs the bad?
      - prox 5y ago
        You always hear about the bad. You never hear about all the good. In any case, it is never futile to make your slice of the world better. Volunteer, help, donate, all help to turn the ship around. A friend of mine started small with a organisation and now helps tens of people a year with domestic issues. All people who might have been worse off, and perhaps start doing bad things.

krapp 5y ago

>The solution at this point is starting over. If you don't like what the mirror shows you, breaking the mirror or replacing it won't solve the problem.

effingwewt 5y ago
Every one of our institutions is rotten to the core, none of it can be fixed as they all have evolved to protect themselves. Budgets are maxed to ensure more funding, education is terrible. Truly, I'm down to get together with some people, buy an island, and start from scratch. Putting bandaids on squirting arteries does nothing.
- krapp 5y ago
  Okay, okay. Ease up there, edgelord.
  - effingwewt 5y ago
    Twice now you came at me with ad hominem and nothing substantive, but I'm the edgelord. Refute a point or move along.
    - krapp 5y ago
      > Twice now you came at me with ad hominem and nothing substantive, but I'm the edgelord. Yes, you are the edgelord. You literally refer to yourself as a jaded asshole in your profile, so don't be upset when people choose to see you as the persona you present. You get what you give. >Refute a point or move along. "Every one of our institutions is rotten to the core, none of it can be fixed as they all have evolved to protect themselves" is low-effort juvenile cynicism and hyperbole that deserves no more than the snarky dismissal I gave it. You're not making substantive, intelligent arguments in this thread, nor are you making thoughtful replies to anyone else. The only refutation I can offer is that you mature emotionally and stop seeing the world in such narrow-minded and reductionist terms. Assuming you're not just shitposting, I mean. And you don't get to tell me where to go.
      - effingwewt 5y ago
        Wow so just more ad hominem and still nothing to rebutt. Get over yourself. You don't get to lecture me on hiw to treat people when you came at me unbidden and for no better reason than to talk shit.

jungturk 5y ago

I can appreciate how daunting the challenge seems to get from what we see around us to the ideal we have in mind, but if its any consolation - this is the kindest the planet has ever been (which admittedly might not be saying much). More people have access to transformative resources than has ever been the case. All the ills around you were even worse in the past and its only the incremental efforts of the decent that have gotten us to these heights. We haven't fallen from grace - we're rising out of the muck.

effingwewt 5y ago
I disagree this is the kindest earth, it's just hidden better now. We kill/harm each other at record rates. We are sinking into the muck, using wet naps to clean our eyes to pretend we are making things better.
- prox 5y ago
  I am pretty sure this is not the case. We have less wars than we ever had, and people aren’t dying by the millions anymore in the industrial Revolution of the 19th century. So please elucidate where you think we are killing eachother at record rates, because I don’t think that is the case.
  - effingwewt 5y ago
    Less wars!= less killing. We have mass shootings, military coups, genocides, we fight over resources already. Murder rates in the use rose what 20% in 2020? Need I go on? I'd ask instead what good do you think we humans are doing, and further if you believe it outweighs the bad?
    - prox 5y ago
      You always hear about the bad. You never hear about all the good. In any case, it is never futile to make your slice of the world better. Volunteer, help, donate, all help to turn the ship around. A friend of mine started small with a organisation and now helps tens of people a year with domestic issues. All people who might have been worse off, and perhaps start doing bad things.