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Because Luke Smith is not shy to express his alt right political views both on his website and his YouTube channel. As long as he's free to do that, I'm free to

Because Luke Smith is not shy to express his alt right political views both on his website and his YouTube channel. As long as he's free to do that, I'm free to criticize it.

jetstreamSam 5y ago
I would completely agree on that, if his general blog would be what was posted. But this is an unrelated informative article, which is why I don't think discrediting critique of the person is valid. Especially since the 'offenses' seem impressively minor in this case.
- Kaze404 5y ago
  I agree that this is an unrelated article, but he opened this can of worms himself by inserting dogwhistles in it. Which is unfortunate, because the information in there is actually useful and something I would gladly link in the "Library" section of my blog. But I can't do that now, otherwise I'd be platforming speech that wants me dead.
  - jetstreamSam 5y ago
    Would you care to explain to me how "consooome" and "soyware" imply your death? In my vocabulary those are a joking reference to overconsumption and a play on bad software that serves as spyware, which social media sites arguably often are imo. If you argue that you associate these words with people that want you dead it would seem to me that that is your narrow personal perspective. I certainly don't want you dead.
  - spErased 5y ago
    I'm not sure what to look for as evidence of Luke suggesting he would want yourself or anyone else dead. I would appreciate some quotes or the name of a particular blog entry for my reference.
    - Kaze404 5y ago
      Sorry, that was definitely bad wording on my part. But still, I think my hesitancy to platform people who openly use the vernacular of people who actually do want that is reasonable. I obviously don't know Luke Smith and have no idea on what he actually wants, but I know the people who use those words and what they want.
  - pixxel 5y ago
    Perhaps you’re over sensitive or you get a kick out of derailing. Either way, time here has been lost to the topic.
  - _dain_ 5y ago
    > platforming speech that wants me dead. can you point to a single instance where luke smith has advocated violence, against you or others?
kkoncevicius 5y ago
Do you have some examples of his alt-right political opinions? I've watched a few videos of his that were recommended and don't remember anything there.
- jetstreamSam 5y ago
  If I remember correctly he's very critical of modern society and the modern human living conditions. Very disillusioned from big cities and academic institutions. Example; "modern man is a slave to his impulses and calls it freedom. Previous societies forbid giving into these impulses and thus were more free." ~see his blog To me it seems quite conservative and always well explained but never outright alt-right.
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- Kaze404 5y ago
  I think the FAQ (https://web.archive.org/web/20180523034252/http://old.lukesmith.xyz/faq.html https://web.archive.org/web/20180523034252/http://old.lukesm...) says it all really, especially the section where he talks about "the SJWs".
  - kkoncevicius 5y ago
    After reading I think you are blowing this out of proportion by stating that "it says it all". There is a section there about his political beliefs and he says his main belief is that tech-monopolies should be broken down and society should be governed on a smaller scale. I think half of HN readers would agree with some version of that. And about "the SJWs" - he only says that people are asking him to make video about them and he is not going to do that. Maybe I don't know what alt-right is but I don't see how this is alt-right. Just because he uses the term "SJW" ? I don't use it but I know what it means. You apparently do also. That doesn't make us alt-right, right?
    - 5y ago

Because Luke Smith is not shy to express his alt right political views both on his website and his YouTube channel. As long as he's free to do that, I'm free to criticize it.

jetstreamSam 5y ago

I would completely agree on that, if his general blog would be what was posted. But this is an unrelated informative article, which is why I don't think discrediting critique of the person is valid. Especially since the 'offenses' seem impressively minor in this case.

Kaze404 5y ago
I agree that this is an unrelated article, but he opened this can of worms himself by inserting dogwhistles in it. Which is unfortunate, because the information in there is actually useful and something I would gladly link in the "Library" section of my blog. But I can't do that now, otherwise I'd be platforming speech that wants me dead.
- jetstreamSam 5y ago
  Would you care to explain to me how "consooome" and "soyware" imply your death? In my vocabulary those are a joking reference to overconsumption and a play on bad software that serves as spyware, which social media sites arguably often are imo. If you argue that you associate these words with people that want you dead it would seem to me that that is your narrow personal perspective. I certainly don't want you dead.
- spErased 5y ago
  I'm not sure what to look for as evidence of Luke suggesting he would want yourself or anyone else dead. I would appreciate some quotes or the name of a particular blog entry for my reference.
  - Kaze404 5y ago
    Sorry, that was definitely bad wording on my part. But still, I think my hesitancy to platform people who openly use the vernacular of people who actually do want that is reasonable. I obviously don't know Luke Smith and have no idea on what he actually wants, but I know the people who use those words and what they want.
- pixxel 5y ago
  Perhaps you’re over sensitive or you get a kick out of derailing. Either way, time here has been lost to the topic.
- _dain_ 5y ago
  > platforming speech that wants me dead. can you point to a single instance where luke smith has advocated violence, against you or others?

kkoncevicius 5y ago

Do you have some examples of his alt-right political opinions? I've watched a few videos of his that were recommended and don't remember anything there.

jetstreamSam 5y ago
If I remember correctly he's very critical of modern society and the modern human living conditions. Very disillusioned from big cities and academic institutions. Example; "modern man is a slave to his impulses and calls it freedom. Previous societies forbid giving into these impulses and thus were more free." ~see his blog To me it seems quite conservative and always well explained but never outright alt-right.
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Kaze404 5y ago
I think the FAQ (https://web.archive.org/web/20180523034252/http://old.lukesmith.xyz/faq.html https://web.archive.org/web/20180523034252/http://old.lukesm...) says it all really, especially the section where he talks about "the SJWs".
- kkoncevicius 5y ago
  After reading I think you are blowing this out of proportion by stating that "it says it all". There is a section there about his political beliefs and he says his main belief is that tech-monopolies should be broken down and society should be governed on a smaller scale. I think half of HN readers would agree with some version of that. And about "the SJWs" - he only says that people are asking him to make video about them and he is not going to do that. Maybe I don't know what alt-right is but I don't see how this is alt-right. Just because he uses the term "SJW" ? I don't use it but I know what it means. You apparently do also. That doesn't make us alt-right, right?
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