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I have been writing minutes, action lists, sharing documents meetings, 95% of people don't care and will come back to you a week later with a different opinions
by Foobar8568 5y ago
I have been writing minutes, action lists, sharing documents meetings, 95% of people don't care and will come back to you a week later with a different opinions than what you agreed during the meeting, better, they'll pretend what ever despite written evidence.
Corporate world is a shit hole where the only thing that matter is the opinion of a decision level breaker (escalation point) .
- blowski 5y agoExactly. If you a toxic culture, written notes won’t help you. If you have a healthy culture, it’s not a problem in the first place.
- ethbr0 5y agoI'd argue written notes / minutes do help in a toxic culture. I've had the obligatory interactions with a few backstabbing and/or passively aggressive teams, and when things eventually explode and work their way up the leadership chain (hopefully to someone with more sense), it's a quick knife through "you said / they said" to produce a written document from a meeting 3 months ago, where the assumptions you've been operating under were agreed to by the other team. Obligatory: producing said doc in this context makes you an asshole, and is a nuclear escalation. But some (rare) times call for that. (If it's a habit, you should probably reflect on yourself and/or find a healthier place to work)
- atatatat 5y agoSounds like you need to consider making a change, too.
- Foobar8568 5y agoAt the end of the day, you need to change as often as you have a reorg in a company.
- nuclearnice1 5y agoWhat are the kinds of things people reverse their agreement s on? They change technical designs or timelines slip?
- ethbr0 5y agoIn my (thankfully limited) experience it was around responsibility and methods of escalation. My read was that a team didn't want to be bothered with something, but I was working on a corporate priority, so we set a meeting, hashed out, and agreed on how issues should be brought to them. When something happened down the road, the agreed process was followed, and they (surprisingly stubbornly) claimed they weren't responsible and shouldn't be contacted for this issue.
- splittingTimes 5y agoTypically scope of a project: feature x and y are agreed to not be included but two sprints before release they become a must have, because otherwise Sales suddenly cannot sell the product.
- lornajane 5y agoDo you have some tips on doing good writings? It's something I'd like to improve on but I haven't seen it done really well so far. If you have any recommended resources for learning more, I would be interested to dig in.