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Why would anyone still buy a dinosaur engine car is beyond me. Electric cars have a higher top speed and accelerate faster.

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newsclues 5y ago
Sound and feeling.
nicbou 5y ago
Range, always range. If you travel long distances with a vehicle, electric cars are a real hassle. An all-electric roadtrip would require a whole new layer of planning and compromise. Charging in general is a hassle if you live in the city. You might need to park in a different neighbourhood just to let your car charge while you're at home. For many use cases, EVs just aren't practical.
- willvarfar 5y ago
  The “Super cars” the exception is talking about have no range to talk of. The GP is incorrect that EVs are faster; if they were, the super car manufacturers wouldn’t be making hybrids.
- ElFitz 5y ago
  But are Ferraris and Lamborghinis really the type of car one would take on a long trip? First I've often enough been told that high performance cars weren’t the most comfortable, and the mere risk of it breaking down somewhere in the middle of nowhere without any certified garage in the area (which is the case of most places) would make me think twice. But to each their own, I guess.
- 7373737373 5y ago
  Yeah, charging has to become a whole lot faster and vehicles a whole lot cheaper for the majority of society to be able to make the switch
nolok 5y ago
Yet CDs are dead and Vinyle is booming. People want that because they can, because of the image it gives, because society somehow associates some of those older riskier tech as "more manly/showing strength", and because no matter how much money you have we have a need to strive for that one next thing we can't get yet, which is why the richest people are all trying to go to space or change the world in whatever way.
- fipar 5y ago
  I think that analogy is not the best for at least two reasons: - The cars we're discussing here are anything but "older tech". Ferrari has been consistently at the vanguard in terms of making fast cars. I guess you could argue that they're older in that they're ICE based, but then, consider that the first Porsche was an electric car, electric is actually older tech than ICE ;) - Different people have different reasons to prefer vinyl, but one thing I don't think can be argued against is that, as a music storage medium, vinyl is a lot more resilient. I have records from when my grandmother was young and I can still play them just fine, yet she's been dead for a few years. I have lost files from my first computers (30+ years ago) and there's no way to get those back. Of course, my grandmother never made backups of her records, and I can even get an idea of what music they have without electricity: I can always just put it on the turntable and manually spin it. For archiving purposes, vinyl wipes the floor with any digital format IMHO. Still, I think your point stands, it's only the analogy that may not be the best :)
flurben 5y ago
Reliability
jstanley 5y ago
Cost.
i_am_proteus 5y ago
Handling through corners. Batteries are less energy dense than gasoline, so the overall weight of electric cars is higher, resulting in poor cornering.
kubb 5y ago
In case of Lambos it doesn't apply but as an answer to your question: price. Imagine you earn the equivalent of 1K usd per month. A new Toyota Yaris is 20K and a Tesla Model 3 is 50K, and you will have to replace the battery in it after 4 years for an additional 20K. (feel free to correct the actual values if my ballpark figures are inaccurate). What do you do? You buy a used 5-8 year Yaris for 5K and it can serve you for 10 years with minimal maintenance spending.
- pjerem 5y ago
  4 years for the battery ? My Yaris battery is 10 years old and still working like a charm. Changing the battery is not even an expected maintenance during the total lifetime of the car. And it’s the same for any EV : replacing battery is never to be expected (except of course if you have an issue with it).
WJW 5y ago
I don't think people buy Ferrari or Lamborghini cars for their prodigious range. That kind of car is 99% for showing off. A minor problem is that electric vehicles don't make quite as much noise, but a bigger problem is that even the top-line "Founders edition" Tesla roadster maxes out at ~$250k, rather than the 450k+ for a pimped out Ferrari. The Tesla brand is about equal to BMW or Mercedes but certainly not equal to the real "showing off" brands.
- elif 5y ago
  People buy horses to show off too.. but it's not exactly the same flex it used to be
fipar 5y ago
ICE vehicles are more affordable for the people that buy cars and motorcycles to get to work without having to depend on public transportation. Also, notwithstanding Dinoco, oil does not come from dinosaurs. I'm concerned about all the batteries we'll have to dispose of if we transition to only electric vehicles. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the only sustainable option long-term is to give up having individual engine-powered transportation, ICE or otherwise (and I say this as someone who loves cars).
gherkinnn 5y ago
Because Lamborghinis and Ferraris are loud, vulgar and fun.

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newsclues 5y ago

Sound and feeling.

nicbou 5y ago

Range, always range. If you travel long distances with a vehicle, electric cars are a real hassle. An all-electric roadtrip would require a whole new layer of planning and compromise. Charging in general is a hassle if you live in the city. You might need to park in a different neighbourhood just to let your car charge while you're at home. For many use cases, EVs just aren't practical.

willvarfar 5y ago
The “Super cars” the exception is talking about have no range to talk of. The GP is incorrect that EVs are faster; if they were, the super car manufacturers wouldn’t be making hybrids.
ElFitz 5y ago
But are Ferraris and Lamborghinis really the type of car one would take on a long trip? First I've often enough been told that high performance cars weren’t the most comfortable, and the mere risk of it breaking down somewhere in the middle of nowhere without any certified garage in the area (which is the case of most places) would make me think twice. But to each their own, I guess.
7373737373 5y ago
Yeah, charging has to become a whole lot faster and vehicles a whole lot cheaper for the majority of society to be able to make the switch

nolok 5y ago

Yet CDs are dead and Vinyle is booming. People want that because they can, because of the image it gives, because society somehow associates some of those older riskier tech as "more manly/showing strength", and because no matter how much money you have we have a need to strive for that one next thing we can't get yet, which is why the richest people are all trying to go to space or change the world in whatever way.

fipar 5y ago
I think that analogy is not the best for at least two reasons: - The cars we're discussing here are anything but "older tech". Ferrari has been consistently at the vanguard in terms of making fast cars. I guess you could argue that they're older in that they're ICE based, but then, consider that the first Porsche was an electric car, electric is actually older tech than ICE ;) - Different people have different reasons to prefer vinyl, but one thing I don't think can be argued against is that, as a music storage medium, vinyl is a lot more resilient. I have records from when my grandmother was young and I can still play them just fine, yet she's been dead for a few years. I have lost files from my first computers (30+ years ago) and there's no way to get those back. Of course, my grandmother never made backups of her records, and I can even get an idea of what music they have without electricity: I can always just put it on the turntable and manually spin it. For archiving purposes, vinyl wipes the floor with any digital format IMHO. Still, I think your point stands, it's only the analogy that may not be the best :)

flurben 5y ago

Reliability

jstanley 5y ago

Cost.

i_am_proteus 5y ago

Handling through corners. Batteries are less energy dense than gasoline, so the overall weight of electric cars is higher, resulting in poor cornering.

kubb 5y ago

In case of Lambos it doesn't apply but as an answer to your question: price. Imagine you earn the equivalent of 1K usd per month. A new Toyota Yaris is 20K and a Tesla Model 3 is 50K, and you will have to replace the battery in it after 4 years for an additional 20K. (feel free to correct the actual values if my ballpark figures are inaccurate). What do you do? You buy a used 5-8 year Yaris for 5K and it can serve you for 10 years with minimal maintenance spending.

pjerem 5y ago
4 years for the battery ? My Yaris battery is 10 years old and still working like a charm. Changing the battery is not even an expected maintenance during the total lifetime of the car. And it’s the same for any EV : replacing battery is never to be expected (except of course if you have an issue with it).

WJW 5y ago

I don't think people buy Ferrari or Lamborghini cars for their prodigious range. That kind of car is 99% for showing off. A minor problem is that electric vehicles don't make quite as much noise, but a bigger problem is that even the top-line "Founders edition" Tesla roadster maxes out at ~$250k, rather than the 450k+ for a pimped out Ferrari. The Tesla brand is about equal to BMW or Mercedes but certainly not equal to the real "showing off" brands.

elif 5y ago
People buy horses to show off too.. but it's not exactly the same flex it used to be

fipar 5y ago

ICE vehicles are more affordable for the people that buy cars and motorcycles to get to work without having to depend on public transportation. Also, notwithstanding Dinoco, oil does not come from dinosaurs. I'm concerned about all the batteries we'll have to dispose of if we transition to only electric vehicles. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the only sustainable option long-term is to give up having individual engine-powered transportation, ICE or otherwise (and I say this as someone who loves cars).

gherkinnn 5y ago

Because Lamborghinis and Ferraris are loud, vulgar and fun.