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Not to be a dick, but who cares? This just seems like a lame proprietary rip-off. Etherpad is alive and well, and it's totally F/OSS - Etherpad Lite was just r

by Mizza 15y ago

Not to be a dick, but who cares? This just seems like a lame proprietary rip-off. Etherpad is alive and well, and it's totally F/OSS - Etherpad Lite was just released and it's SUPER easy to embed in your own apps: https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite

spitfire 15y ago
Easy, Because it's a YC company. and everyone knows Paul Graham farts unicorns. To get real for a minute. They may be able to make this into a nice money making niche product. There's plenty of open source products that people still pay money for. Just look at OSS content management systems.
mechanical_fish 15y ago
From the install docs for etherpad-lite on Github, step one: As root: Okay, two words and we've just lost 98% of the computer users in the world. Install all dependencies. We need the sqlite develob libraries, gzip, git, curl, wget, libssl develop libraries and python: ... and now we've lost most of the remaining 2%. "SUPER easy" for you, "SUPER easy" for me, but the other 99.98% of the potential customers would also love to use the product.
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- decadentcactus 15y ago
  Seems to happen to a lot of products that are 'simple'. It happened to Dropbox ("Why would I use this when I can do these other twelve steps to do nowhere near the same thing") and the Ipod ("Why would I need this when I have a CD Burner and a Discman" (srsly)). I think it's safe to ignore claims like it :)
rdl 15y ago
Two reasons to care: 1) This is a YC company after a couple months. They'll continue to refine the product; imagine if Facebook had gotten set in stone back in 2007, released code, and didn't themselves continue to develop. I love F/OSS for some things, but this isn't the kind of software which usually gets developed well entirely by the OSS community -- it's design/UI/UX heavy. Even if it were just a 100% clone today (which it isn't, it's better and worse in different ways), I'm excited what it will be in 6mo. 2) Social community and network effects are a whole lot more likely for this than for an embedded app. Again, standalone Facebook is way less interesting than facebook.com.
- citricsquid 15y ago
  right, so let's all praise it and talk about it in a few months when it's a good product :)
mrkurt 15y ago
Etherpad's well suited for editing human-speak documents, but not a good fit for collaborative code editing. This is more in the vein of SubEthaEdit on the web, in vim, and in other editors (I presume). This is going to be a friggin' boon for phone interviews.
mark_l_watson 15y ago
Thanks for the link to Etherpad Lite - looks like a good project. That said, I set up Etherpad a long while ago for family and a few invited friends and installing it was fairly trivial. BTW, very roughly similar, but: Wave in a Box is also an easy install and I like the slightly simpler interface (compared to Wave itself).
jacoblyles 15y ago
Linux is an F/OSS Unix, but there was still room for Mac OSX. Some of us like nice things maintained by somebody else.

by Mizza 15y ago

spitfire 15y ago

Easy, Because it's a YC company. and everyone knows Paul Graham farts unicorns. To get real for a minute. They may be able to make this into a nice money making niche product. There's plenty of open source products that people still pay money for. Just look at OSS content management systems.

mechanical_fish 15y ago

From the install docs for etherpad-lite on Github, step one: As root: Okay, two words and we've just lost 98% of the computer users in the world. Install all dependencies. We need the sqlite develob libraries, gzip, git, curl, wget, libssl develop libraries and python: ... and now we've lost most of the remaining 2%. "SUPER easy" for you, "SUPER easy" for me, but the other 99.98% of the potential customers would also love to use the product.

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decadentcactus 15y ago
Seems to happen to a lot of products that are 'simple'. It happened to Dropbox ("Why would I use this when I can do these other twelve steps to do nowhere near the same thing") and the Ipod ("Why would I need this when I have a CD Burner and a Discman" (srsly)). I think it's safe to ignore claims like it :)

rdl 15y ago

Two reasons to care: 1) This is a YC company after a couple months. They'll continue to refine the product; imagine if Facebook had gotten set in stone back in 2007, released code, and didn't themselves continue to develop. I love F/OSS for some things, but this isn't the kind of software which usually gets developed well entirely by the OSS community -- it's design/UI/UX heavy. Even if it were just a 100% clone today (which it isn't, it's better and worse in different ways), I'm excited what it will be in 6mo. 2) Social community and network effects are a whole lot more likely for this than for an embedded app. Again, standalone Facebook is way less interesting than facebook.com.

citricsquid 15y ago
right, so let's all praise it and talk about it in a few months when it's a good product :)

mrkurt 15y ago

Etherpad's well suited for editing human-speak documents, but not a good fit for collaborative code editing. This is more in the vein of SubEthaEdit on the web, in vim, and in other editors (I presume). This is going to be a friggin' boon for phone interviews.

mark_l_watson 15y ago

Thanks for the link to Etherpad Lite - looks like a good project. That said, I set up Etherpad a long while ago for family and a few invited friends and installing it was fairly trivial. BTW, very roughly similar, but: Wave in a Box is also an easy install and I like the slightly simpler interface (compared to Wave itself).

jacoblyles 15y ago

Linux is an F/OSS Unix, but there was still room for Mac OSX. Some of us like nice things maintained by somebody else.