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Yes, google is antagonistic to GPL licensed software.

Brian_K_White 5y ago
I don't understand this comment. Google have done countless things both for and against open software. any business that wants to use gpl software has a problem. It's not that gpl is bad either, or that it can't be used for commercial purposes, it's simply that the traditional business model doesn't include giving anything to anyone else. So like I said, google "mit vs gpl" to get countless articles and discussions explaining all about that. That is the answer to "what's the problem with gpl here?" This project is 0bsd not mit but mit will yield more hits, and is the same fundamental issue.
- valvar 5y ago
  But the GPL is much better if you want to avoid having your work stolen.
- drran 5y ago
  Red Hat sells GPL'ed software for billions. Oracle tried to do the same. Amazon created a whole ecosystem (AWS) around GPL'ed code. Even M$ embraces GPL. Can you name the problem, please?
  - phendrenad2 5y ago
    Red Hat sells support, their software is free of charge. This is the closest thing to a viable business model around GPL code, and if you look at most companies doing this they are struggling. Red Hat was lucky/smart enough to get i to the government space and sell based on their rock-solid security. If your GPL software is unappetizing or irrelevant to the government world, you can't get that revenue stream going. Amazon "commoditizes their complement" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25476266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25476266) by making open-source easy to use, and hopefully you'll exit through the gift shop and drop some chunky spend on their hosting services. If your code is the actual valuable thing (for instance, a spreadsheet program that makes Excel look like a joke), then giving the code away for free doesn't give you any path to make money.
    - valvar 5y ago
      Selling exemptions is a thing.
      - phendrenad2 5y ago
        Oh right, that's the other business model that probably works. It does diminish your ability to take outside contributions, because you'll need a CLA. (IANAL)
  - Brian_K_White 5y ago
    "Can you name the problem, please?" Sure thing. I guess you missed where I already said: google "mit vs gpl"

I don't understand this comment. Google have done countless things both for and against open software. any business that wants to use gpl software has a problem. It's not that gpl is bad either, or that it can't be used for commercial purposes, it's simply that the traditional business model doesn't include giving anything to anyone else. So like I said, google "mit vs gpl" to get countless articles and discussions explaining all about that. That is the answer to "what's the problem with gpl here?" This project is 0bsd not mit but mit will yield more hits, and is the same fundamental issue.

valvar 5y ago
But the GPL is much better if you want to avoid having your work stolen.
drran 5y ago
Red Hat sells GPL'ed software for billions. Oracle tried to do the same. Amazon created a whole ecosystem (AWS) around GPL'ed code. Even M$ embraces GPL. Can you name the problem, please?
- phendrenad2 5y ago
  Red Hat sells support, their software is free of charge. This is the closest thing to a viable business model around GPL code, and if you look at most companies doing this they are struggling. Red Hat was lucky/smart enough to get i to the government space and sell based on their rock-solid security. If your GPL software is unappetizing or irrelevant to the government world, you can't get that revenue stream going. Amazon "commoditizes their complement" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25476266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25476266) by making open-source easy to use, and hopefully you'll exit through the gift shop and drop some chunky spend on their hosting services. If your code is the actual valuable thing (for instance, a spreadsheet program that makes Excel look like a joke), then giving the code away for free doesn't give you any path to make money.
  - valvar 5y ago
    Selling exemptions is a thing.
    - phendrenad2 5y ago
      Oh right, that's the other business model that probably works. It does diminish your ability to take outside contributions, because you'll need a CLA. (IANAL)
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  "Can you name the problem, please?" Sure thing. I guess you missed where I already said: google "mit vs gpl"