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https://apnews.com/article/seattle-police-government-and-politics-e0ce15086d8bf06502659386148d94fa https://apnews.com/article/seattle-police-government-and-pol... > Over 200 Seattle police officers quit amid nation protests, April 28, 2021 > Police Chief Adrian Diaz said Tuesday that the department is in a “staffing crisis” after more than 180 police officers quit last year and another 66 officers left their jobs so far this year, according to police data. “We are at record lows in the city right now. I have about 1,080 deployable officers. This is the lowest I’ve seen our department,” Diaz told KING-TV. Why would the city lose 20% of its police force in 2 years? It is a mystery. What we know beyond reasonable doubt: * The loss in deployable officers is not related to the City Council publicly embracing 'defund the police'. * The loss in deployable officers has very little to do with the mysterious spike in murders that occurred during the same time period. Obviously anyone that raises absolutely unfounded concerns around those points is just exhibiting hysteric lazy thinking.

pseudalopex 5y ago
You seem determined to ignore murders spiked in places unlike Seattle last year too. And how does your hypothesis explain less total violent crime? You haven't shown the city council embraced defunding the police either. They cut a fraction of a percent from the police budget last year. Lots of cities had to make cuts to lots of departments. The $5.4 million the article said they fought about this year is under 2%. And it's just what the police spent over budget last year.[1] [1] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-police-have-exceeded-overtime-budget-city-council-will-consider-additional-cut-next-year/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-p...
- angelzen 5y ago
  I am hypothesizing that the answer to the spike in murder is multivariate, with the largest two components being 'defund the police' and lockdowns. You seem determined to ignore that the City Council did embrace 'defund the police', specifically a veto proof majority did vouch to pass a resolution to slash police funding by 50%. They eventually failed to pass it for whatever political reasons, but the intent is plain and clear. As a result police officers are resigning en-mass to distance themselves from the insanity. Perhaps you have an alternate explanation for the police exodus, please do share. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-police-department-defund-reform https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-poli...
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    You understand the other articles didn't mention anything like that, right? You can't expect other people to try harder than you to find evidence for your claims. Fort Worth increased police funding and had a larger murder rate increase than Seattle.[1] And I don't think Texas had stricter restrictions than Washington. That's just 1 example. The summer protests kicked off the discussions about defunding police. Murder rates were higher already.[2] The AP article said city council policies were 1 of 3 reasons Seattle police said they quit. A so called anti police climate in the city was another. Disagreements with department leadership was the last. It's worth noting they're under federal oversight for excessive force since 2012. They seem unwilling to admit they have a problem. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-crime-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-cri...

pseudalopex 5y ago

You seem determined to ignore murders spiked in places unlike Seattle last year too. And how does your hypothesis explain less total violent crime? You haven't shown the city council embraced defunding the police either. They cut a fraction of a percent from the police budget last year. Lots of cities had to make cuts to lots of departments. The $5.4 million the article said they fought about this year is under 2%. And it's just what the police spent over budget last year.[1] [1] https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-police-have-exceeded-overtime-budget-city-council-will-consider-additional-cut-next-year/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-p...

angelzen 5y ago
I am hypothesizing that the answer to the spike in murder is multivariate, with the largest two components being 'defund the police' and lockdowns. You seem determined to ignore that the City Council did embrace 'defund the police', specifically a veto proof majority did vouch to pass a resolution to slash police funding by 50%. They eventually failed to pass it for whatever political reasons, but the intent is plain and clear. As a result police officers are resigning en-mass to distance themselves from the insanity. Perhaps you have an alternate explanation for the police exodus, please do share. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-police-department-defund-reform https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/22/seattle-poli...
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  You understand the other articles didn't mention anything like that, right? You can't expect other people to try harder than you to find evidence for your claims. Fort Worth increased police funding and had a larger murder rate increase than Seattle.[1] And I don't think Texas had stricter restrictions than Washington. That's just 1 example. The summer protests kicked off the discussions about defunding police. Murder rates were higher already.[2] The AP article said city council policies were 1 of 3 reasons Seattle police said they quit. A so called anti police climate in the city was another. Disagreements with department leadership was the last. It's worth noting they're under federal oversight for excessive force since 2012. They seem unwilling to admit they have a problem. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28643574 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-crime-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/upshot/murders-rising-cri...