> They just go sign up and drop in just like they would with Signal or WhatsApp or any other messenger. Are they actually verifying each of their devices and g

> They just go sign up and drop in just like they would with Signal or WhatsApp or any other messenger. Are they actually verifying each of their devices and getting full end-to-end encryption across all their devices with each of their one-to-one conversants? I will grant you that if you don't care about encryption at all there aren't that many issues to worry about. If not, well, to each their own? I can't deny that you personally and a bunch of people you know use Matrix without any problems. You can't deny that I (and many, many other people) have encountered these problems. So the bugs are out there, but may not affect everyone. I'd be rather shocked if no one you know has encountered problems with the emoji-based verification thing. I have experimentally used Matrix on and off for maybe five years now. It has never (no not even once) simply worked for me when setting up a new device / reverifying an old device. I click the button and nothing happens. I click it a few more times, nothing happens. Sometimes, 15 minutes later, I'll get a popup about it on another device, but by then I will have given up and clicked out of the modal on the original device. It's just been insanely broken in my experience.