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I think this Chinese government website might not have been compromised: http://www.chinapeace.gov.cn/chinapeace/c25030/2012-06/19/content_11871628.shtml http:/

by yorwba 5y ago

I think this Chinese government website might not have been compromised: http://www.chinapeace.gov.cn/chinapeace/c25030/2012-06/19/content_11871628.shtml http://www.chinapeace.gov.cn/chinapeace/c25030/2012-06/19/co... A man surnamed Ibrahim (so probably member of a Turkic Muslim minority) was sentenced to 10 years in prison and a fine of 200,000 RMB for illegally importing and selling illegal religious and/or pirated publications. Whether that's evidence of "China imprisoning populations solely for having a different religion and culture" depends on how much emphasis you put on the "solely". If he'd actually been licensed, he probably wouldn't have been arrested, but on the other hand I know a woman selling all kinds of Taoist snakeoil, and I don't think anyone's bothered to investigate her, so his religion likely played a role.

fakedang 5y ago
It's very possible though that the guy was selling "illegal" Qurans, prayer mats and incantation beads, all of which are illegal material in Communist China. There's no chance in hell he could have legalized that business whatsoever, simply because the Chinese government does not take a liking to the Muslim faith (partly because they can't control it like they control the churches due to its decentralized nature).
- yorwba 5y ago
  The centralized organisation serving as a conduit between the government and Muslims is the Islamic Association of China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Association_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Association_of_China Among other things, it has produced an official translation of the Qur'an, published by China Social Sciences Press http://www.csspw.com.cn/booksclass_159590_1_2__0_issueddate_1.jhtml http://www.csspw.com.cn/booksclass_159590_1_2__0_issueddate_... If he'd been selling that one, it would've been unproblematic. (But also unlikely to be very profitable.)
pphysch 5y ago
This doesn't remotely support the claim of genocide. The guy was actually accused, tried and convicted of a crime, probably involving the distribution of jihadi material. The crime of illegally distributing documents would be brutally prosecuted in the US, possibly outside the legal system. Whether it's jihadi material or pirated Disney films.
- yorwba 5y ago
  > This doesn't remotely support the claim of genocide. You didn't ask about genocide in the comment I replied to. > The guy was actually accused, tried and convicted of a crime, probably involving the distribution of jihadi material. The police seized 125250 copies. I doubt jihad is nearly that popular. (His city of Hetian only has 400,000 inhabitants.) But importing any kind of religious publication beyond a small amount for personal use requires express permission http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2007-04/20/content_589295.htm http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2007-04/20/content_589295.htm paragraph 10. Most likely it was just an edition of the Qur'an that hadn't been officially approved by the Islamic Association of China.

by yorwba 5y ago

fakedang 5y ago

It's very possible though that the guy was selling "illegal" Qurans, prayer mats and incantation beads, all of which are illegal material in Communist China. There's no chance in hell he could have legalized that business whatsoever, simply because the Chinese government does not take a liking to the Muslim faith (partly because they can't control it like they control the churches due to its decentralized nature).

yorwba 5y ago
The centralized organisation serving as a conduit between the government and Muslims is the Islamic Association of China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Association_of_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Association_of_China Among other things, it has produced an official translation of the Qur'an, published by China Social Sciences Press http://www.csspw.com.cn/booksclass_159590_1_2__0_issueddate_1.jhtml http://www.csspw.com.cn/booksclass_159590_1_2__0_issueddate_... If he'd been selling that one, it would've been unproblematic. (But also unlikely to be very profitable.)

pphysch 5y ago

This doesn't remotely support the claim of genocide. The guy was actually accused, tried and convicted of a crime, probably involving the distribution of jihadi material. The crime of illegally distributing documents would be brutally prosecuted in the US, possibly outside the legal system. Whether it's jihadi material or pirated Disney films.

yorwba 5y ago
> This doesn't remotely support the claim of genocide. You didn't ask about genocide in the comment I replied to. > The guy was actually accused, tried and convicted of a crime, probably involving the distribution of jihadi material. The police seized 125250 copies. I doubt jihad is nearly that popular. (His city of Hetian only has 400,000 inhabitants.) But importing any kind of religious publication beyond a small amount for personal use requires express permission http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2007-04/20/content_589295.htm http://www.gov.cn/ziliao/flfg/2007-04/20/content_589295.htm paragraph 10. Most likely it was just an edition of the Qur'an that hadn't been officially approved by the Islamic Association of China.