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This is a disgusting kafka trap you just tried to stuff another person in by implying the only reason anyone could disagree with you is if they're an abuser. Yo

This is a disgusting kafka trap you just tried to stuff another person in by implying the only reason anyone could disagree with you is if they're an abuser. You can take this slimy behavior elsewhere and it only shows that your remarks about the OCaml community are suspect.

throwaway894345 5y ago
It's not a Kafka trap. I'm responding to the specific rebuttal "OCaml can't be toxic because I don't find it toxic" by explaining that there are a couple of possibilities: 1. I'm wrong and OCaml's community is great OR 2. The parent doesn't find the OCaml community to be toxic because he's attracted to toxic communities I specifically didn't say that the parent was toxic, although I think his comments (including his flagged nationalist comment) speak for themselves. > You can take this slimy behavior elsewhere You created an account just to accost me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- qsort 5y ago
  3. onus probandi? I haven't interacted with the ocaml community enough to form any opinion, but honestly "the toxic community hypothesis", as you put it, is intellectual garbage. With the same reasoning, one could argue that yours is a textbook example of the "overly sensible guy hypothesis", which states that only unreasonably sensible people would complain about communities rather than adapt. It's pretty obvious that toxic communities do exist, and the "overly sensible guy hypothesis" is nonsensical, but your demeanor is implying that the user you were responding to is himself toxic, which I don't find at all reasonable.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    I suspect you mean “sensitive” and not “sensible”? In any case, I’m not that sensitive. I went through the mill 15-20 years ago when programming communities were quite a lot more hostile toward newbies (certainly “welcoming” was not something communities concerned themselves with). But I do have the good sense to know that this isn’t constructive. And anyway, if you (or whomever) think OCaml’s level of toxicity is roughly the sweet spot, why do you care if I disagree? Perhaps you think I’m overly sensitive, but it’s not like I’m going to lose sleep over it. :)

throwaway894345 5y ago

It's not a Kafka trap. I'm responding to the specific rebuttal "OCaml can't be toxic because I don't find it toxic" by explaining that there are a couple of possibilities: 1. I'm wrong and OCaml's community is great OR 2. The parent doesn't find the OCaml community to be toxic because he's attracted to toxic communities I specifically didn't say that the parent was toxic, although I think his comments (including his flagged nationalist comment) speak for themselves. > You can take this slimy behavior elsewhere You created an account just to accost me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

qsort 5y ago
3. onus probandi? I haven't interacted with the ocaml community enough to form any opinion, but honestly "the toxic community hypothesis", as you put it, is intellectual garbage. With the same reasoning, one could argue that yours is a textbook example of the "overly sensible guy hypothesis", which states that only unreasonably sensible people would complain about communities rather than adapt. It's pretty obvious that toxic communities do exist, and the "overly sensible guy hypothesis" is nonsensical, but your demeanor is implying that the user you were responding to is himself toxic, which I don't find at all reasonable.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  I suspect you mean “sensitive” and not “sensible”? In any case, I’m not that sensitive. I went through the mill 15-20 years ago when programming communities were quite a lot more hostile toward newbies (certainly “welcoming” was not something communities concerned themselves with). But I do have the good sense to know that this isn’t constructive. And anyway, if you (or whomever) think OCaml’s level of toxicity is roughly the sweet spot, why do you care if I disagree? Perhaps you think I’m overly sensitive, but it’s not like I’m going to lose sleep over it. :)