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This is so true. .NET has been steadily going downhill for some time now. The best indicator is the absolutely rotten documentation for the more recent .NET stu

This is so true. .NET has been steadily going downhill for some time now. The best indicator is the absolutely rotten documentation for the more recent .NET stuff. Compare that to the older .NET Framework and/or Winapi documentation which was excellent.

oaiey 5y ago
It is fighting in a space which is very competitive. Java, Go, JavaScript and Python. The later two are being favorite of every university or coding camp graduate. You stay relevant or you die. Unfortunately, that implies faster dev cycles and areas like docs which are not well served.
- Zababa 5y ago
  How is .NET fighting against JavaScript or Python? Java or Go, I can understand but not JavaScript or Python.
  - Jenk 5y ago
    Serverless computing is dominated by node, go, and python. .NET just doesn't startup fast enough.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      Good point, I didn't think about that.
      - oaiey 5y ago
        .NET is competing against any language which is not exactly driver level (like c/c++/rust). Every other app model they compete. Even OS Scripting they cover with PowerShell (which is not c# but it is .NET).
        Zababa 5y ago
        You're right, I tend to think .NET == C# but it's a whole ecosystem. We have some Powershell at work and it's a nice DSL for scripting. The languages we use outside of .NET are C++ (like you said), JS/TS (I doubt Blazor will replace all usage of JS, and we have a big codebase anyways), and Python for some machine learning stuff.
spaetzleesser 5y ago
Agreed about documentation. They produce a lot of it but it’s hard to use and doesn’t really give you the big picture. I know I am old but in the 90s and 2000s the MSDN documentation was fantastic. Sad to see it going downhill that much.
- crispyambulance 5y ago
  I agree the docs are getting half-baked, they lack context and guidance. FWIW, github issues for all things .net have been a surprisingly good resource. Especially on the hot new things, microsoft folks are very responsive and helpful. I dare say it's better for many topics than stackoverflow.

oaiey 5y ago

It is fighting in a space which is very competitive. Java, Go, JavaScript and Python. The later two are being favorite of every university or coding camp graduate. You stay relevant or you die. Unfortunately, that implies faster dev cycles and areas like docs which are not well served.

Zababa 5y ago
How is .NET fighting against JavaScript or Python? Java or Go, I can understand but not JavaScript or Python.
- Jenk 5y ago
  Serverless computing is dominated by node, go, and python. .NET just doesn't startup fast enough.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Good point, I didn't think about that.
    - oaiey 5y ago
      .NET is competing against any language which is not exactly driver level (like c/c++/rust). Every other app model they compete. Even OS Scripting they cover with PowerShell (which is not c# but it is .NET).
      - Zababa 5y ago
        You're right, I tend to think .NET == C# but it's a whole ecosystem. We have some Powershell at work and it's a nice DSL for scripting. The languages we use outside of .NET are C++ (like you said), JS/TS (I doubt Blazor will replace all usage of JS, and we have a big codebase anyways), and Python for some machine learning stuff.

spaetzleesser 5y ago

Agreed about documentation. They produce a lot of it but it’s hard to use and doesn’t really give you the big picture. I know I am old but in the 90s and 2000s the MSDN documentation was fantastic. Sad to see it going downhill that much.

crispyambulance 5y ago
I agree the docs are getting half-baked, they lack context and guidance. FWIW, github issues for all things .net have been a surprisingly good resource. Especially on the hot new things, microsoft folks are very responsive and helpful. I dare say it's better for many topics than stackoverflow.