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Not sure why this is getting downvoted. I’m sure the sheriffs in many counties are just fine. But even the national and international news covers the AlCo sheri

Not sure why this is getting downvoted. I’m sure the sheriffs in many counties are just fine. But even the national and international news covers the AlCo sheriffs abuse (check out the Colbert Report and The Guardian). While this isn’t directly related to the AlCo sheriffs, you can also look up the “crime reduction” social media scandal from Oakland PD, a law enforcement agency within Alameda County.

Clubber 5y ago
>Sheriffs and their deputies are self-selecting exurban white men with tendencies toward AM radio, conspiracy forums, and horse paste. He was doing great until the last sentence when he went stereotyping.
- ssully 5y ago
  As someone who knows a lot of police officers, it just sounds like the poster also knows a lot of police officers.
  - Clubber 5y ago
    Maybe, but it's a simple minded dig to a much better point. He diluted his own post by placing the police and about 50% of the population into a reductive stereotype. Not the best way to be persuasive. Also, Villanueva, the LA sheriff is not only a Democrat, he was assisted by the Democratic Party in getting elected. Not only was the OP stereotyping but he was trying to shift blame to another party. Maybe Democrats in CA should start looking into their own party for the cause of these problems rather than giving them a free pass and shifting blame. FWIW, I think the justice system in CA is hopelessly corrupt and brutal and has been for decades. That's a pretty serious problem Californians don't seem to want to address. Maybe corrupt, brutal justice systems suit the bosses of both parties just fine and the voters just don't want to admit their tribe is just as bad in this regard as the other tribe. Oh well, divide and conquer strikes again. Enjoy your free nightstick massage and lead infusions. https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/la-democrats-helped-elect-sheriff-villanueva-resolution-resignation-mcdonnell https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/la-democrats-helped-...
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
He may be right that cops basically can't get fired but he's getting downvoted because he pivots to complaining that have adopted a particular branding he doesn't like. Of course that goes over like a lead balloon on a site where many people's day jobs includes thinking about the difference between specific cases and a general case. Replacing punisher skulls with rainbows and monster trucks with Teslas isn't going to change the fact that the police are capricious, unaccountable and feel enabled to rule with an iron fist.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  If they were covered in Nazi tattoos, would you be saying the same thing? Tattoos don't make you into a bad person; bad people get bad tattoos, like ones glorifying ruthless comic book vigilantes specifically designed to appeal to the 70s law-and-order Dirty Harry audience.
- jeffbee 5y ago
  "Branding he doesn't like" is a whole thing, though. Showing contempt for the norms of society by getting a bunch of obscene tattoos and driving a vehicle that violates every relevant stanza of the vehicle code is not a healthy behavior for individuals and organizations who are granted the exclusive franchise on violence.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    >Showing contempt for the norms of society... Oh please, punisher skulls and lifted trucks are the white dude equivalent of pumpkin spice "outside the betlway". It's no surprise that a "nice suburb" is serviced by garbage collectors and landscapers from the hood. Why is it a surprise that they have to hire hicks to be their jackboot?
    - dragontamer 5y ago
      The Punisher is not a good mindset for cops to follow. It's vigilantism of the worst kind. He works as a comic book character, a character with deep flaws. But the Punisher is not a figure to look up to at all.

Clubber 5y ago

>Sheriffs and their deputies are self-selecting exurban white men with tendencies toward AM radio, conspiracy forums, and horse paste. He was doing great until the last sentence when he went stereotyping.

ssully 5y ago
As someone who knows a lot of police officers, it just sounds like the poster also knows a lot of police officers.
- Clubber 5y ago
  Maybe, but it's a simple minded dig to a much better point. He diluted his own post by placing the police and about 50% of the population into a reductive stereotype. Not the best way to be persuasive. Also, Villanueva, the LA sheriff is not only a Democrat, he was assisted by the Democratic Party in getting elected. Not only was the OP stereotyping but he was trying to shift blame to another party. Maybe Democrats in CA should start looking into their own party for the cause of these problems rather than giving them a free pass and shifting blame. FWIW, I think the justice system in CA is hopelessly corrupt and brutal and has been for decades. That's a pretty serious problem Californians don't seem to want to address. Maybe corrupt, brutal justice systems suit the bosses of both parties just fine and the voters just don't want to admit their tribe is just as bad in this regard as the other tribe. Oh well, divide and conquer strikes again. Enjoy your free nightstick massage and lead infusions. https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/la-democrats-helped-elect-sheriff-villanueva-resolution-resignation-mcdonnell https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/la-democrats-helped-...

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

He may be right that cops basically can't get fired but he's getting downvoted because he pivots to complaining that have adopted a particular branding he doesn't like. Of course that goes over like a lead balloon on a site where many people's day jobs includes thinking about the difference between specific cases and a general case. Replacing punisher skulls with rainbows and monster trucks with Teslas isn't going to change the fact that the police are capricious, unaccountable and feel enabled to rule with an iron fist.

pessimizer 5y ago
If they were covered in Nazi tattoos, would you be saying the same thing? Tattoos don't make you into a bad person; bad people get bad tattoos, like ones glorifying ruthless comic book vigilantes specifically designed to appeal to the 70s law-and-order Dirty Harry audience.
jeffbee 5y ago
"Branding he doesn't like" is a whole thing, though. Showing contempt for the norms of society by getting a bunch of obscene tattoos and driving a vehicle that violates every relevant stanza of the vehicle code is not a healthy behavior for individuals and organizations who are granted the exclusive franchise on violence.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  >Showing contempt for the norms of society... Oh please, punisher skulls and lifted trucks are the white dude equivalent of pumpkin spice "outside the betlway". It's no surprise that a "nice suburb" is serviced by garbage collectors and landscapers from the hood. Why is it a surprise that they have to hire hicks to be their jackboot?
  - dragontamer 5y ago
    The Punisher is not a good mindset for cops to follow. It's vigilantism of the worst kind. He works as a comic book character, a character with deep flaws. But the Punisher is not a figure to look up to at all.