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I wonder about the software to run such a phone: wouldn't it need to be somewhat minimal and not offer feature upgrades -- only security fixes -- over the life

by mikece 5y ago

I wonder about the software to run such a phone: wouldn't it need to be somewhat minimal and not offer feature upgrades -- only security fixes -- over the life of the phone? Otherwise I would think this phone would suffer the same fate as any five year old Android or iPhone: the bloat of new features overwhelms the old phone's hardware and you're left with a disappointing or frustrating experience. That said, I love the goals of this project and hope it succeeds. And if it can run Graphene OS I'll pre-order one now!

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moate 5y ago
Presumably you'd be able to swap out some hardware to be able to increase ram/processor performance. If I were designing this as a real product I'd still make some choices similar to the megacorps (yearly product releases being one) but change what the product is (the new line of cameras, said ram/processors, etc) that would slot into the existing machine. Rather than selling you a 1000+ dollar phone every couple of years I'd sell you the option to customize a phone to meet your needs.
- djrogers 5y ago
  > Presumably you'd be able to swap out some hardware Based on what's actually being promised on that page, this sounds like wish-casting. There's no mention at all of swapping out CPU/RAM for upgrades.
- mikestew 5y ago
  but change what the product is (the new line of cameras, said ram/processors, etc) I'm trying to imagine how much bigger this "phone" is going to be now that it has, say, a socketed CPU and slots for RAM. Will cargo pants still cut it, or do I need to go to a messenger bag for carrying my new "phone"?
bzzzt 5y ago
Since we were perfectly capable of creating working graphical, internet connected software with a few megabytes of RAM in the 90'd I sometimes wonder if the availability of gigabytes of memory isn't the problem instead of progress. Seems like programmers will use it all and are driving the upgrade threadmill which causes working hardware to be discarded.

by mikece 5y ago

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moate 5y ago

Presumably you'd be able to swap out some hardware to be able to increase ram/processor performance. If I were designing this as a real product I'd still make some choices similar to the megacorps (yearly product releases being one) but change what the product is (the new line of cameras, said ram/processors, etc) that would slot into the existing machine. Rather than selling you a 1000+ dollar phone every couple of years I'd sell you the option to customize a phone to meet your needs.

djrogers 5y ago
> Presumably you'd be able to swap out some hardware Based on what's actually being promised on that page, this sounds like wish-casting. There's no mention at all of swapping out CPU/RAM for upgrades.
mikestew 5y ago
but change what the product is (the new line of cameras, said ram/processors, etc) I'm trying to imagine how much bigger this "phone" is going to be now that it has, say, a socketed CPU and slots for RAM. Will cargo pants still cut it, or do I need to go to a messenger bag for carrying my new "phone"?

bzzzt 5y ago

Since we were perfectly capable of creating working graphical, internet connected software with a few megabytes of RAM in the 90'd I sometimes wonder if the availability of gigabytes of memory isn't the problem instead of progress. Seems like programmers will use it all and are driving the upgrade threadmill which causes working hardware to be discarded.