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Copper communications cable were in use from 1850 until the 1980s, when they were replaced one by one with fiber. Almost all the copper cables ever laid are st
by cableguy 5y ago
Copper communications cable were in use from 1850 until the 1980s, when they were replaced one by one with fiber.
Almost all the copper cables ever laid are still in the depths of the ocean, as it's not worth salvaging them except near shore. A few of the more recent copper cables are still operational, but they are used only for scientific research.
- hnarn 5y agoThat’s true for communication cables though, so what about cables for electricity? That’s mostly what my original comment was about, that the title seems to imply any submarine cable is automatically a data cable.
- im_down_w_otp 5y agoWhy would you send electricity across the ocean? You can generate it locally on both sides.
- addingnumbers 5y agoNot all of these lines go across the ocean. If you're trying to move power between São Paolo and Beunos Aries, it might be cheaper to lay a sea cable than to deal with all the terrain, land rights and borders involved in an overland route.
- hnarn 5y agoNot all submarine cables cross oceans.
- lifekaizen 5y agoSome seem to be for redundancy, some bring power to municipalities (i.e. island cities) with limited power production capacity. There’s a list here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_power_cable https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_power_cable
- mannykannot 5y agoThere is (if it has not been scuppered by brexit) Icelink, a project to connect Iceland to the UK. The rationale, as usual, is mismatched supply and demand, where the supply is green geothermal power. https://askjaenergy.com/2018/04/17/icelink-in-operation-by-2025/ https://askjaenergy.com/2018/04/17/icelink-in-operation-by-2... The idea of connecting solar farms in the Sahara to Europe under the Mediterranean is also perennially in the air, with the same rationale as Icelink.
- retrac 5y agoElectricity is just that much cheaper in some places than others. Bauxite is shipped far across the ocean to places with cheap electricity for the energy-intensive process of refining it into aluminum. Sometimes it makes more sense to ship the electricity instead. Here in Canada, I pay like 20% of what the Japanese pay and 10% what the Danish pay for electricity. If we could figure out a way to export our hydroelectric wealth to regions like Europe and Asia, it could help climate change. High-temperature superconductors don't get enough research, IMO.
- bluepoint 5y agothey do get enough research, unfortunately they are some of the most complex physical systems and we still haven’t figured out why exactly they superconduct (i used to work on this).
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- cableguy 5y agoThere are high voltage submarine cables for electrical power - these are used to cross rivers and lakes, for example. International cables, like the ones between the UK and the European mainland, are used for load balancing. As it's difficult technically to transmit electrical power over a subsea cable (and exponentially more difficult at the length increases), these cables have limited application. There's over a million kilometers (~600,000 miles) of fiber optic communications cable around the world right now, and perhaps a thousand or so miles of power cable, so "submarine cable" without any qualifier almost always refers to communications cables. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_power_cable#Operational_submarine_power_cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_power_cable#Operatio...