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First time I've been impressed with a phone-camera since the Nokias windows Phone, which still stands as the best phone Ive ever had. This one: https://www.fre

by lbj 5y ago

First time I've been impressed with a phone-camera since the Nokias windows Phone, which still stands as the best phone Ive ever had. This one: https://www.freshnessmag.com/.image/t_share/MTM2NjQ3MjI5MTMzMDM5MTk5/nokia-lumia-800-windows-phone-08.jpg https://www.freshnessmag.com/.image/t_share/MTM2NjQ3MjI5MTMz...

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mgdlbp 5y ago
A while back, I sought comparisons between the famous Lumia 1020 (with a 41 megapixel, 1/1.2" sensor in 2013^) and modern phones^^ and found quite surprisingly many. It seems like that's still happening; this website has many in detail, including one with the iPhone 12.[1] IIRC the results had become fairly close between the 1020 and modern phones by late 2019, with the 1020 being markedly superior with post-processing turned down. ^ considered significant as it was far superior at the time to every other phone camera and most point-and-shoots; also found in a more rudimentary form in the Nokia 808 from the year before ^^ For reference, the iPhone 13 seems to have a 1/1.65" main sensor in a 'Pro 12MP camera system'. IIRC, 48 MP sensors from Xiaomi in early 2020 were the first to surpass the 1020 in megapixel count, and a few uncommon phones over the years have had sensors of larger area. [1] http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/24099_BypopulardemandCamerabattleLum.php http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/24099_Bypopula...
- lbj 5y ago
  Thanks for sharing that! The Iphone clearly does a better job now. When I highlighted the Lumia it was not in absolute terms, but the jump in quality from my previous phone, and Im hoping the I13 is a similar jump. Currently I have the X and it takes really bad photos. But overall, I just loved everything about Lumia/Windows. Very non-intrusive. The e-ink layout took almost no power to run, had no apps in the store so very fast.. :)
  - mgdlbp 5y ago
    Even now, I'm still fond of the Pivot control. Alas, side-scrolling for navigation seems to be a foregone paradigm; all that's left are horizontal lists. Maybe navbars and hamburgers positioned on the farthest edge of the screen are more usable, but the Pivot was just so Swiss! It's ironic, though, that the situation with home screens is inverted: orthodox launchers have horizontal pages, but the WP Start screen is vertical and unpaginated! One app in particular, a WP original and exclusive, now comes to mind: Logic Games, a diverse collection of grid-based logic puzzles, had an extreme but effective take on this kind of navigation: nested horiz/vert scrolling formed a grid of phone screen-sized pages for puzzle types, and each page contained a grid of tiles for individual puzzles (sadly, 4D chess was not among them). I've yet to come across a more extensive unified set of grid-based puzzle implementations, though Simon Tatham's collection has similar spirit: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ Looks like it's still listed in the store at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/logic-games/9wzdncrfhmwc https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/logic-games/9wzdncrfhmwc Though from the screenshots, I've just realized that it actually uses not Pivot, but Panorama controls: https://web.archive.org/web/20131124064955/http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windowsphone/design/hh202890(v=vs.105).aspx https://web.archive.org/web/20131124064955/http://msdn.micro... Reviewing the docs in the Wayback Machine, Pivot was toned down in UWP to a tab-like appearance and recently deprecated in WinUI by NavigationView.

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mgdlbp 5y ago

A while back, I sought comparisons between the famous Lumia 1020 (with a 41 megapixel, 1/1.2" sensor in 2013^) and modern phones^^ and found quite surprisingly many. It seems like that's still happening; this website has many in detail, including one with the iPhone 12.[1] IIRC the results had become fairly close between the 1020 and modern phones by late 2019, with the 1020 being markedly superior with post-processing turned down. ^ considered significant as it was far superior at the time to every other phone camera and most point-and-shoots; also found in a more rudimentary form in the Nokia 808 from the year before ^^ For reference, the iPhone 13 seems to have a 1/1.65" main sensor in a 'Pro 12MP camera system'. IIRC, 48 MP sensors from Xiaomi in early 2020 were the first to surpass the 1020 in megapixel count, and a few uncommon phones over the years have had sensors of larger area. [1] http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/24099_BypopulardemandCamerabattleLum.php http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/24099_Bypopula...

lbj 5y ago
Thanks for sharing that! The Iphone clearly does a better job now. When I highlighted the Lumia it was not in absolute terms, but the jump in quality from my previous phone, and Im hoping the I13 is a similar jump. Currently I have the X and it takes really bad photos. But overall, I just loved everything about Lumia/Windows. Very non-intrusive. The e-ink layout took almost no power to run, had no apps in the store so very fast.. :)
- mgdlbp 5y ago
  Even now, I'm still fond of the Pivot control. Alas, side-scrolling for navigation seems to be a foregone paradigm; all that's left are horizontal lists. Maybe navbars and hamburgers positioned on the farthest edge of the screen are more usable, but the Pivot was just so Swiss! It's ironic, though, that the situation with home screens is inverted: orthodox launchers have horizontal pages, but the WP Start screen is vertical and unpaginated! One app in particular, a WP original and exclusive, now comes to mind: Logic Games, a diverse collection of grid-based logic puzzles, had an extreme but effective take on this kind of navigation: nested horiz/vert scrolling formed a grid of phone screen-sized pages for puzzle types, and each page contained a grid of tiles for individual puzzles (sadly, 4D chess was not among them). I've yet to come across a more extensive unified set of grid-based puzzle implementations, though Simon Tatham's collection has similar spirit: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ Looks like it's still listed in the store at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/logic-games/9wzdncrfhmwc https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/logic-games/9wzdncrfhmwc Though from the screenshots, I've just realized that it actually uses not Pivot, but Panorama controls: https://web.archive.org/web/20131124064955/http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/windowsphone/design/hh202890(v=vs.105).aspx https://web.archive.org/web/20131124064955/http://msdn.micro... Reviewing the docs in the Wayback Machine, Pivot was toned down in UWP to a tab-like appearance and recently deprecated in WinUI by NavigationView.