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Pre-edited photo is a myth. Cameras capture light values far exceeding dynamic range of any output media. Fitting scene-referred data into capabilities of scree
by strogonoff 5y ago
Pre-edited photo is a myth. Cameras capture light values far exceeding dynamic range of any output media. Fitting scene-referred data into capabilities of screens or paper is always a subjective art and is ultimately photographer’s job.
In digital, all “unedited” means is using camera firmware’s interpretation of raw values; especially with complex processing in modern phones this isn’t a very good measure as scene recognition can be hit or miss and the algorithm is a black box.
(What could be indicative is posting scene raws alongside exhaustive development presets, of course.)
- ValentineC 5y agoI'm guessing what the parent might have wanted is something straight out of the Camera app (or Halide), without any further post-processing.
- strogonoff 5y agoIt could be helpful if one could assume if you took the same photo in the same location by the same phone, the result would look the same, which I don’t think would be a valid assumption anymore.
- stared 5y agoSure, no photo is unedited. But there is a difference what is the effort of post-processing. Is it none, a few seconds, a few minutes with Lightroom, or hours with Photoshop? With enough effort you can basically do whatever you wish, especially when it comes to increasing quality (see for example this one https://gizmodo.com/deep-learning-can-now-flawlessly-correct-photos-taken-i-1825919192 https://gizmodo.com/deep-learning-can-now-flawlessly-correct...).
- strogonoff 5y agoIt is true that there is a difference in the amount of manual tweaking, but at the same time any remaining objectivity in “unedited” phone-produced output-referred (non-raw) images is fading fast. In other words, imagine if the technology by your link is silently incorporated in the next version of iOS Camera app without you knowing—and I’m not even sure this is an outrageous exaggeration.