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> Murder rose over 35 percent in cities with populations over 250,000 that reported full data. It also rose over 40 percent in cities 100,000 to 250,000, and a

> Murder rose over 35 percent in cities with populations over 250,000 that reported full data. It also rose over 40 percent in cities 100,000 to 250,000, and around 25 percent in cities under 25,000. The difference has been noticeable in my city. Murders within the city used to be kind of common, maybe two or so a month, but such crimes were non-existent in the suburbs. Lots of overdoses, but never murders. Now though, there are multiple murders per week within the city, and a few a month in some of the suburbs. Scrolling through the local news is just painful. City or suburbs, kids or adults, the news is full of people killed. Stats back up that this is already the second deadliest year in the region, after last year. And since this will come up. It's a mildly blue city in a very, very red state. We definitely did not defund the police, if anything, we upfunded them in response.

nickthemagicman 5y ago
> if anything Sounds real scientific like.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  So, local governments publish their budgets, so I can see that the increases happened. But they don't publish their reasoning for the increases, thus, I can only guess on the intent.
  - jdavis703 5y ago
    If you read the meeting minutes for the local government meeting you will find their thoughts. If the meeting minutes seem duplicitous, you can always make a FOIA request. You can also look at which candidates receive funding from various local government unions and fraternal orders. I don’t read meeting minutes for most cities, but I do follow my own. Essentially with crime increasing the city council members in my extremely blue city were scared to cut police funding (fearing being blamed for a crime increase). It’s nothing nefarious. It just means activists need to do better challenging status quo opinions.
    - inetknght 5y ago
      > If you read the meeting minutes for the local government meeting you will find their thoughts Oh yes because government officials never lie on record...
      - jdavis703 5y ago
        Perhaps I misunderstood the grandparent post. But police funding seems like a straightforward, highly politicized issue. It’s not like there’s some sketchy backroom deals over an innocuous sounding contract.
        karlkeefer 5y ago
        Those contracts are sometimes negotiated in private mediated sessions. It's not all open air by default.

nickthemagicman 5y ago

> if anything Sounds real scientific like.

mywittyname 5y ago
So, local governments publish their budgets, so I can see that the increases happened. But they don't publish their reasoning for the increases, thus, I can only guess on the intent.
- jdavis703 5y ago
  If you read the meeting minutes for the local government meeting you will find their thoughts. If the meeting minutes seem duplicitous, you can always make a FOIA request. You can also look at which candidates receive funding from various local government unions and fraternal orders. I don’t read meeting minutes for most cities, but I do follow my own. Essentially with crime increasing the city council members in my extremely blue city were scared to cut police funding (fearing being blamed for a crime increase). It’s nothing nefarious. It just means activists need to do better challenging status quo opinions.
  - inetknght 5y ago
    > If you read the meeting minutes for the local government meeting you will find their thoughts Oh yes because government officials never lie on record...
    - jdavis703 5y ago
      Perhaps I misunderstood the grandparent post. But police funding seems like a straightforward, highly politicized issue. It’s not like there’s some sketchy backroom deals over an innocuous sounding contract.
      - karlkeefer 5y ago
        Those contracts are sometimes negotiated in private mediated sessions. It's not all open air by default.