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I noticed that it wakes from sleep for windows updates now, which not only is annoying (Bluetooth devices suddenly waking up too), but windows update often requ

by cm2187 5y ago

I noticed that it wakes from sleep for windows updates now, which not only is annoying (Bluetooth devices suddenly waking up too), but windows update often requires intense CPU usage as defender does its dirty things, .net re-JITs, etc.

jiggawatts 5y ago
This is a life-threating design. A high-end "gamer" laptop in a bag powering up unexpectedly could easily catch fire and kill someone. These shenanigans will keep going on until someone dies and a manager or two at Microsoft is sent to jail for criminal negligence.
- comeonseriously 5y ago
  > These shenanigans will keep going on until someone dies This will happen. > and a manager or two at Microsoft is sent to jail for criminal negligence. This will never happen.
- elzbardico 5y ago
  Now imagine this happening in the overhead bin of a plane.
  - TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
    Or in the cargo hold.
    - anamax 5y ago
      In the US at least, laptops with LI-ion batteries are not supposed to be in the cargo hold. I don't know whether the checked-luggage scanners catch this or what happens if they find a laptop in luggage. The passenger isn't present during checked luggage scanning so it would be complicated to try to give the laptop to the passenger. The obvious alternatives look like theft and are extremely inconvenient. (Oh joy, I'm at my destination and my laptop isn't.)
      - GekkePrutser 5y ago
        Same in Europe. No idea what they do either. I've only put a laptop in my checked luggage once, in 2000 when it was still permitted. It was one with NiMH cells by the way which don't have a tendency to catch fire but they suck in other ways (energy density, memory effect). That's why nobody uses them anymore. It arrived with a cracked screen so never again...
- andi999 5y ago
  What happened to overheating protection (and then hard shutdown from the BIOS)
- vbezhenar 5y ago
  How can laptop catch fire? CPU throttles itself at 100 C and shuts down shortly thereafter. 100C is not enough to make a fire.
  - sbierwagen 5y ago
    CPUs don't burn, but lithium ion cells don't like being at 100C.

by cm2187 5y ago

jiggawatts 5y ago

This is a life-threating design. A high-end "gamer" laptop in a bag powering up unexpectedly could easily catch fire and kill someone. These shenanigans will keep going on until someone dies and a manager or two at Microsoft is sent to jail for criminal negligence.

comeonseriously 5y ago
> These shenanigans will keep going on until someone dies This will happen. > and a manager or two at Microsoft is sent to jail for criminal negligence. This will never happen.
elzbardico 5y ago
Now imagine this happening in the overhead bin of a plane.
- TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
  Or in the cargo hold.
  - anamax 5y ago
    In the US at least, laptops with LI-ion batteries are not supposed to be in the cargo hold. I don't know whether the checked-luggage scanners catch this or what happens if they find a laptop in luggage. The passenger isn't present during checked luggage scanning so it would be complicated to try to give the laptop to the passenger. The obvious alternatives look like theft and are extremely inconvenient. (Oh joy, I'm at my destination and my laptop isn't.)
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      Same in Europe. No idea what they do either. I've only put a laptop in my checked luggage once, in 2000 when it was still permitted. It was one with NiMH cells by the way which don't have a tendency to catch fire but they suck in other ways (energy density, memory effect). That's why nobody uses them anymore. It arrived with a cracked screen so never again...
andi999 5y ago
What happened to overheating protection (and then hard shutdown from the BIOS)
vbezhenar 5y ago
How can laptop catch fire? CPU throttles itself at 100 C and shuts down shortly thereafter. 100C is not enough to make a fire.
- sbierwagen 5y ago
  CPUs don't burn, but lithium ion cells don't like being at 100C.