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If Americans had any idea how deep the animosity for Americans still is among the British aristocracy they would seriously reconsider the status quo here. There
by arminiusreturns 5y ago
If Americans had any idea how deep the animosity for Americans still is among the British aristocracy they would seriously reconsider the status quo here. There is a deep and hidden history to this topic of which this article only superficially scratches the surface of.
- simonh 5y agoI think this is pretty silly. Plenty of British aristos and upper middle class have married Americans, or are in fact part American at this point. Sure there may be some throwbacks who have a stick up their arse about it, but that's not "the British aristocracy". Not that those lot have all that much actual influence over anything these days anyway.
- arminiusreturns 5y agoI don't think it is, but I think I understand your point. Of course there is no denyng there is a huge amount of cultural blurring of lines, primarily through the common language, but what I'm talking about goes far beyond just "but a few aristos have ties so why would they hate us" and more towards the systemic setup that has created much of the current mess we are in today. For example, there is a strong body of evidence supporting that Wilsonianism, which I credit as the primary turning point of US foreign policy, was very much entertwined with the upper establishment types in the UK. I could cite many similar examples (the banking system) that continue this narrative. These arent inherently bad per se, but the naive way Americans think of them makes them vulnerable to manipulation and deception. Carroll Quigley's Anglo-American Establishment is a must read for background knowledge on this topic.