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Yeh, the problem is that to force iPhones to use usb-c, they need to force everything to use usb-c, for the forseeable future, regardless of what other standard

Yeh, the problem is that to force iPhones to use usb-c, they need to force everything to use usb-c, for the forseeable future, regardless of what other standards there are to be invented. It seems that alot of these articles tend to forget that devices exist, and will be created, beyond iphones.

Ekaros 5y ago
I don't see why they wouldn't allow changing the standard in a 5-10 years like it did with micro-usb to usb-c.
- blitzar 5y ago
  So in say 5-10 years there would be 2 dominant connectors in the market for phones?? How would that be unlike the last 5-10 years?
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    It's would still be one or two less. And the older one would anyway have old cables left.
    - blitzar 5y ago
      Realistically there are 3 unique connectors at the moment. Prior to USB-C (briefly at least) there were 2. I would love to just have one connector, but without going all liberterian, it hardly seems sensible to legislate which exact piece of technology that is. The problem of 100 different phone chargers was resolved 10 years ago. There are actual problems in the world, that there are 2 types of bits of metal you shove in the back of your phone doesnt even rank on the list.
  - Jensson 5y ago
    The past 5-10 years saw 2 dominant connectors from phones thanks to this EU initiative. If EU didn't actually make good on their promise to punish those companies that didn't conform then you'd start seeing the industry diverge again and we'd have 10+ connectors again in 10 years. So it seems like you'd be in favor of pushing Apple to USB-C here, since you liked the standardization. You can't just say "Apple can do whatever they want, but every other company has to fall in line!". If you don't want other companies to do whatever they want then you wont let Apple to do it either.
    - blitzar 5y ago
      In the UK at least, the apple connector is the dominant one, with >50% of the share. The 'odd ones out' are the non apple phone makers. Perhaps they should be forced to use lighting connectors. Absolutely would love to see apple on usb-c, I honestly dont know why they have not, unless they are waiting for a mini usb-c or just trying to keep the current product cycle going a little longer. This EU initiative is fantastic, it worked, it continues to work. For all the abuse the EU gets for its bright ideas, this was an actual issue back in the day and they have had a material impact in this space.
- xupybd 5y ago
  But who will invest in the new connector. Will they have to work with the EU first to get it approved?
- bodge5000 5y ago
  I don't believe that time forced micro-usb specifically, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing usb-c or lightning right now.

Ekaros 5y ago

I don't see why they wouldn't allow changing the standard in a 5-10 years like it did with micro-usb to usb-c.

blitzar 5y ago
So in say 5-10 years there would be 2 dominant connectors in the market for phones?? How would that be unlike the last 5-10 years?
- Ekaros 5y ago
  It's would still be one or two less. And the older one would anyway have old cables left.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    Realistically there are 3 unique connectors at the moment. Prior to USB-C (briefly at least) there were 2. I would love to just have one connector, but without going all liberterian, it hardly seems sensible to legislate which exact piece of technology that is. The problem of 100 different phone chargers was resolved 10 years ago. There are actual problems in the world, that there are 2 types of bits of metal you shove in the back of your phone doesnt even rank on the list.
- Jensson 5y ago
  The past 5-10 years saw 2 dominant connectors from phones thanks to this EU initiative. If EU didn't actually make good on their promise to punish those companies that didn't conform then you'd start seeing the industry diverge again and we'd have 10+ connectors again in 10 years. So it seems like you'd be in favor of pushing Apple to USB-C here, since you liked the standardization. You can't just say "Apple can do whatever they want, but every other company has to fall in line!". If you don't want other companies to do whatever they want then you wont let Apple to do it either.
  - blitzar 5y ago
    In the UK at least, the apple connector is the dominant one, with >50% of the share. The 'odd ones out' are the non apple phone makers. Perhaps they should be forced to use lighting connectors. Absolutely would love to see apple on usb-c, I honestly dont know why they have not, unless they are waiting for a mini usb-c or just trying to keep the current product cycle going a little longer. This EU initiative is fantastic, it worked, it continues to work. For all the abuse the EU gets for its bright ideas, this was an actual issue back in the day and they have had a material impact in this space.
xupybd 5y ago
But who will invest in the new connector. Will they have to work with the EU first to get it approved?
bodge5000 5y ago
I don't believe that time forced micro-usb specifically, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing usb-c or lightning right now.