>> every time a report of details and extent of their censorship and hiding is submitted to HN, the same people doing the censoring are allowed to flag the arti

>> every time a report of details and extent of their censorship and hiding is submitted to HN, the same people doing the censoring are allowed to flag the article out of existence > You're pushing the door in the wrong direction! We're open to these topics being discussed on HN. They've been discussed a lot and they can, should, and will be discussed more, as significant new information arises. I'm not a native speaker but I wonder if you are talking past each other: SiVal - as far as I can read - describes ordinary users flagging stories before the rest of us can see them. You describe that HN mods doesn't do that and quite the opposite: you reopen discussions like this one. Both of you are correct in my opinion and I think the point that I and possibly also SiVal feel is that moderation is good but some users are abusing the flag feature and it is too easy to do that.