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I don't think anyone would have time to complete such a big list. Is it worthwhile anyway?

by sun123 15y ago

fogus 15y ago
There's nothing to it but to do it. Seriously, there are many developers who have lives, kids, sick relatives, etc. who are able to accomplish the equivalent of this list and more. It will take a very long time to get through this list, but you should always view your skills as a long-term investment. The best in any field realize that increased skill comes with pain and sacrifice. If you were to perform every action on the OP's lists you would be a better programmer. It's up to you to decide just how much better you'll be and if that gain is worth the cost. No one else can answer that for you.
3pt14159 15y ago
I don't think his point is that you need to complete every single one, just like you don't need to get every single achievement in TF2 to be considered a master. His point is that you can make things more incremental and if your goal is to steadily become more and more cognizant of everything software then you can complete these badges one at a time.
bhousel 15y ago
Most people will never run a 5 minute mile either (the author's analogy, not mine). I was all ready to comment about how it wasn't a very fair comparison, but then I thought about it more and realized that I actually do agree with the analogy. My belief (and I realize this is probably a minority opinion) is that most people can never be great developers - it requires some combination of hard work and just "getting it".
- ThePawnBreak 15y ago
  "Getting it" is usually the result of hard work in most cases.
  - bhousel 15y ago
    I'm talking about something different. There are many people for whom a lifetime of hard work will not result in a 5 minute mile, and there are many people for whom a lifetime of hard work will not result in being a great programmer. I know this is an unpopular viewpoint, but it's what I believe. And I have spent many years both running and programming. I am really good at both those things, but neither Ryan Hall good at running, nor John Carmack good at programming.
    - davidh 15y ago
      Perhaps because you do both, ya? I bet if you only programmed you could be John Carmack good at programming and John Carmack good at running.

I don't think anyone would have time to complete such a big list. Is it worthwhile anyway?

by sun123 15y ago

I don't think anyone would have time to complete such a big list. Is it worthwhile anyway?

fogus 15y ago

There's nothing to it but to do it. Seriously, there are many developers who have lives, kids, sick relatives, etc. who are able to accomplish the equivalent of this list and more. It will take a very long time to get through this list, but you should always view your skills as a long-term investment. The best in any field realize that increased skill comes with pain and sacrifice. If you were to perform every action on the OP's lists you would be a better programmer. It's up to you to decide just how much better you'll be and if that gain is worth the cost. No one else can answer that for you.

3pt14159 15y ago

I don't think his point is that you need to complete every single one, just like you don't need to get every single achievement in TF2 to be considered a master. His point is that you can make things more incremental and if your goal is to steadily become more and more cognizant of everything software then you can complete these badges one at a time.

bhousel 15y ago

Most people will never run a 5 minute mile either (the author's analogy, not mine). I was all ready to comment about how it wasn't a very fair comparison, but then I thought about it more and realized that I actually do agree with the analogy. My belief (and I realize this is probably a minority opinion) is that most people can never be great developers - it requires some combination of hard work and just "getting it".

ThePawnBreak 15y ago
"Getting it" is usually the result of hard work in most cases.
- bhousel 15y ago
  I'm talking about something different. There are many people for whom a lifetime of hard work will not result in a 5 minute mile, and there are many people for whom a lifetime of hard work will not result in being a great programmer. I know this is an unpopular viewpoint, but it's what I believe. And I have spent many years both running and programming. I am really good at both those things, but neither Ryan Hall good at running, nor John Carmack good at programming.
  - davidh 15y ago
    Perhaps because you do both, ya? I bet if you only programmed you could be John Carmack good at programming and John Carmack good at running.