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> They provide very little over and above that. For people who love BBForums (like HN tbh), everything may seem “like a forum”. But that is very reductive and

by yunohn 5y ago

> They provide very little over and above that. For people who love BBForums (like HN tbh), everything may seem “like a forum”. But that is very reductive and uninspired. There are various features provided by Snapchat (camera, filters, games) and FB (marketplace, messenger) that nobody would ever compare to a BBForum/Wikipedia. They are inherently complex and valuable to the majority of their users.

TeMPOraL 5y ago
> There are various features provided by Snapchat (camera, filters, games) and FB (marketplace, messenger) that nobody would ever compare to a BBForum/Wikipedia. Yeah. That's because all those features used to be separate applications, not tied to BBForum/Wikipedia engine. They're all complex, but they're also orthogonal to the platform, and their implementations are pretty much commodities. The only value provided here is by integration with platform (particularly UX-wise). Which seems fine, except the only reason this is valuable in the first place, is because the platforms prevent everyone else from doing such integrations themselves.
- yunohn 5y ago
  There is incredible value provided by a marketplace having a forum attached to it. It provides trust and community.
_Understated_ 5y ago
> There are various features provided by Snapchat (camera, filters, games) Of course, these are addons to the platform. But the platform is still the same fundamental application as a forum. Nothing more.
- yunohn 5y ago
  I don’t think anyone would agree that Snapchat is a forum. It’s primarily for direct (media) messages, and the company themselves considers them a camera app.
  - _Understated_ 5y ago
    > and the company themselves considers them a camera app. Doesn't matter what the company calls themselves, it's a forum that people upload phone pics to and those photos/images are then displayed in an algorithmic form (used to be chronological with forums)... same as a forum! Remember, Google is an advertising company but they'd consider themselves more of an engineering or search company... doesn't mean they're right! Edit: Forgot to ask, how do Snapchat make their money? Is it all through advertising? It's a genuine question, I don't use it and have no idea! If it's all advertising revenue then they're an advertising company like Google and Facebook!
    - yunohn 5y ago
      > I don't use it and have no idea There is no forum aspect to Snapchat. I don’t think you should be arguing about this topic, without having used it. G’day!

by yunohn 5y ago

TeMPOraL 5y ago

> There are various features provided by Snapchat (camera, filters, games) and FB (marketplace, messenger) that nobody would ever compare to a BBForum/Wikipedia. Yeah. That's because all those features used to be separate applications, not tied to BBForum/Wikipedia engine. They're all complex, but they're also orthogonal to the platform, and their implementations are pretty much commodities. The only value provided here is by integration with platform (particularly UX-wise). Which seems fine, except the only reason this is valuable in the first place, is because the platforms prevent everyone else from doing such integrations themselves.

yunohn 5y ago
There is incredible value provided by a marketplace having a forum attached to it. It provides trust and community.

_Understated_ 5y ago

> There are various features provided by Snapchat (camera, filters, games) Of course, these are addons to the platform. But the platform is still the same fundamental application as a forum. Nothing more.

yunohn 5y ago
I don’t think anyone would agree that Snapchat is a forum. It’s primarily for direct (media) messages, and the company themselves considers them a camera app.
- _Understated_ 5y ago
  > and the company themselves considers them a camera app. Doesn't matter what the company calls themselves, it's a forum that people upload phone pics to and those photos/images are then displayed in an algorithmic form (used to be chronological with forums)... same as a forum! Remember, Google is an advertising company but they'd consider themselves more of an engineering or search company... doesn't mean they're right! Edit: Forgot to ask, how do Snapchat make their money? Is it all through advertising? It's a genuine question, I don't use it and have no idea! If it's all advertising revenue then they're an advertising company like Google and Facebook!
  - yunohn 5y ago
    > I don't use it and have no idea There is no forum aspect to Snapchat. I don’t think you should be arguing about this topic, without having used it. G’day!