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Disclosure that I'm the Co-Founder and CEO of Vantage - and used to work at both AWS and DigitalOcean....but this is a large reason we offer a fairly generous f

Disclosure that I'm the Co-Founder and CEO of Vantage - and used to work at both AWS and DigitalOcean....but this is a large reason we offer a fairly generous free tier on https://vantage.sh/ https://vantage.sh/ to help folks figure out where their costs are coming from to take action. It can be really frustrating and annoying when you can't hunt down where costs come from.

resonious 5y ago
I'm nitpicking on unimportant details here but this seems like more of a general UI/UX problem than a free tier problem. AWS and Azure both have pretty straightforward free tiers, but people end up accidentally racking up large bills anyway. A UI to see a list of running services, sorted by cost either doesn't exist or is not prominent enough.
- aaronblohowiak 5y ago
  vantage looks like a cost analyzer. vantage free tier will help you find non-free tier issues on AWS, if i understand the GP's point.
- l-p 5y ago
  In Azure: Sidebar -> Cost Management + Billing -> Cost Management -> Cost analysis (preview). It's slow, you can't open links in new tabs, one wrong click and you have navigate to the right page and wait for everything to refresh again, but you can get the list of billed items. Plus a "Other subscription charges" that contains some mystery costs not linked to anything.
  - MichaelZuo 5y ago
    ‘ contains some mystery costs not linked to anything’ Hard to believe that really is the case for a product targeting serious customers in 2021. Doesn’t that make a surprise bill still possible?
    - ethbr0 5y ago
      The state of cloud billing seems like exactly the result you'd get if you didn't have a strong mandate that product teams implement a unified, centralized billing interface. And it makes sense from a growth perspective: new products grow revenue, bad billing systems only annoy customers (but mostly invisibly).
- StratusBen 5y ago
  I mean't the Vantage free tier - not the AWS/Azure free tiers. The UI to see a list of running services, sorted by cost is precisely what Vantage offers (and more)
Bombthecat 5y ago
It's kinda telling that you need an external service, to figure out where your money goes..
telesilla 5y ago
We have services across a lot of cloud providers, Google and Azure for a variety off things, Digital Ocean for some and the main stuff on AWS. I'd love it if a service such as Vantage could track them all, I can only find solutions for AWS.

resonious 5y ago

I'm nitpicking on unimportant details here but this seems like more of a general UI/UX problem than a free tier problem. AWS and Azure both have pretty straightforward free tiers, but people end up accidentally racking up large bills anyway. A UI to see a list of running services, sorted by cost either doesn't exist or is not prominent enough.

aaronblohowiak 5y ago
vantage looks like a cost analyzer. vantage free tier will help you find non-free tier issues on AWS, if i understand the GP's point.
l-p 5y ago
In Azure: Sidebar -> Cost Management + Billing -> Cost Management -> Cost analysis (preview). It's slow, you can't open links in new tabs, one wrong click and you have navigate to the right page and wait for everything to refresh again, but you can get the list of billed items. Plus a "Other subscription charges" that contains some mystery costs not linked to anything.
- MichaelZuo 5y ago
  ‘ contains some mystery costs not linked to anything’ Hard to believe that really is the case for a product targeting serious customers in 2021. Doesn’t that make a surprise bill still possible?
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    The state of cloud billing seems like exactly the result you'd get if you didn't have a strong mandate that product teams implement a unified, centralized billing interface. And it makes sense from a growth perspective: new products grow revenue, bad billing systems only annoy customers (but mostly invisibly).
StratusBen 5y ago
I mean't the Vantage free tier - not the AWS/Azure free tiers. The UI to see a list of running services, sorted by cost is precisely what Vantage offers (and more)

Bombthecat 5y ago

It's kinda telling that you need an external service, to figure out where your money goes..

telesilla 5y ago

We have services across a lot of cloud providers, Google and Azure for a variety off things, Digital Ocean for some and the main stuff on AWS. I'd love it if a service such as Vantage could track them all, I can only find solutions for AWS.