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> ...conceptual reasoning... > ...a symbol is just an object that represents another object. Those are the exact same thing. I mourn the defeat of the linguis

> ...conceptual reasoning... > ...a symbol is just an object that represents another object. Those are the exact same thing. I mourn the defeat of the linguists more than most, but the brute force method undeniably beats out the purpose built on pretty modest time scales. We are well past the point where ML development is better measured in megawatts than megaflops - whoever builds the most nuclear powerplants wins. The prize? Somewhere between superpower level cat photo sorting and an economy that enjoys perfect efficiency - built on the back of autonomous software agents. Obligatory link for this topic: http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

gibsonf1 5y ago
To equate a concept with a symbol, not sure how you do that. For sure you use a symbol to represent an instance of a concept or a concept, like the words in this sentence when you convert them to the concepts in your mind you understand the model of the world I'm talking about. But that symbol just gives you a reference to something else. The something else they forgot about with Symbolic AI is the concept.
- sennight 5y ago
  A concept is simply a pattern used to generalize the underlying data, such patterns are regularly represented by symbols. For example: [x..x+y] is a range pattern, it generalizes any set of numbers that fall within the pattern's bounds, that data could be [0,1,2] or [4,5] or... it goes on forever. You might want to spend some time reading up on formal logic, it should only take a few minutes for you to recognize how bad your take on symbolic logic is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-order_logic