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For a language that's targeted at non-programmers I don't see how Move offers any benefits over Coffeescript, or even Javascript itself particularly. Programmi

For a language that's targeted at non-programmers I don't see how Move offers any benefits over Coffeescript, or even Javascript itself particularly. Programming should change the way you think. The language is an artifact that you program through, but that's not the critical problem in conceiving of and executing good software design. A cursory examination of the Move site does not make it look more attractive than other Javascript based languages, and the explanations it offers i don't think would make it more accessible to non-programmers either. What gives? /me is confused.

superted 15y ago
A little more details from the author of Move.js: http://rsms.me/2011/07/30/an-update-on-move.html http://rsms.me/2011/07/30/an-update-on-move.html
- knowtheory 15y ago
  The more i read, the less i like :( The prototypal inheritance example in that post does not read in an intuitive manner, and certainly don't improve the clarity of meaning for prototypal inheritance (especially now that it's using the word "class"). The only compelling thing i can find in here so far is that it's trying to provide common functionality from ES5. But again, i don't see what that has to do with building a language that is easy for non-programmers to grok, making the Javascript semantic model more accessible, or even making JS coding more readable.
j-ashkenas 15y ago
For Rasmus' opinions on Move vs CoffeeScript, see: http://www.quora.com/Rasmus-Andersson-What-are-the-pertinent-differences-between-Move-and-Coffeescript-for-you http://www.quora.com/Rasmus-Andersson-What-are-the-pertinent...
- knowtheory 15y ago
  I should add that i'm not using a fair cognitive framing. It doesn't have to be Coffeescript vs Move or Move vs anything. I don't think that rsms achieves what his site seems to set out to do, although i agree that a common ES5 behavioral platform is a good thing. His opinion of CoffeeScript is interesting, and provides some insight into his motivation, i guess, but i think i may have introduced a red-herring into the conversation.

superted 15y ago

A little more details from the author of Move.js: http://rsms.me/2011/07/30/an-update-on-move.html http://rsms.me/2011/07/30/an-update-on-move.html

knowtheory 15y ago
The more i read, the less i like :( The prototypal inheritance example in that post does not read in an intuitive manner, and certainly don't improve the clarity of meaning for prototypal inheritance (especially now that it's using the word "class"). The only compelling thing i can find in here so far is that it's trying to provide common functionality from ES5. But again, i don't see what that has to do with building a language that is easy for non-programmers to grok, making the Javascript semantic model more accessible, or even making JS coding more readable.

j-ashkenas 15y ago

For Rasmus' opinions on Move vs CoffeeScript, see: http://www.quora.com/Rasmus-Andersson-What-are-the-pertinent-differences-between-Move-and-Coffeescript-for-you http://www.quora.com/Rasmus-Andersson-What-are-the-pertinent...

knowtheory 15y ago
I should add that i'm not using a fair cognitive framing. It doesn't have to be Coffeescript vs Move or Move vs anything. I don't think that rsms achieves what his site seems to set out to do, although i agree that a common ES5 behavioral platform is a good thing. His opinion of CoffeeScript is interesting, and provides some insight into his motivation, i guess, but i think i may have introduced a red-herring into the conversation.