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Clearly we should just cancel someone completely. Why stop at airlines. We should have a national list of undesirable people, any corporation can add any name

by syshum 5y ago

Clearly we should just cancel someone completely. Why stop at airlines. We should have a national list of undesirable people, any corporation can add any name to the list, and that instantly means you are unemployable, have all your bank accounts closed, can not obtain loans, have your home foreclosed, and your children are expelled from all schools. No Appeal, no redemption, nothing lists like this have a long history of not working out really well for people... Who ever at delta that thinks this is a good idea needs to be added to to said list first.

bdcravens 5y ago
A lot of cancellation happens for those with felonies on their record.
- randyrand 5y ago
  Personally, i’d rather lose my rights to guns and voting than lose the ability to fly. I’m already self employed not by choice. Am i missing something? Due process is also nice.
- syshum 5y ago
  This whataboutism while true is not really revelant here Further do you believe I would agree with this cancellation I do not, if a person is a danger to others they should be in prison, if they have deemed by the system to not be a danger thus are free to roam among us they should have all of their rights and privileges of a free person restored to them
  - bagacrap 5y ago
    The incidence of recidivism is extreme. The chances of a freed felon committing another felony are such that handing them a gun or a job in retail is very risky. Yet the alternative, keeping them in prison forever, is clearly not fair. So what should be done?
    - syshum 5y ago
      >>The incidence of recidivism is extreme hmmm >>The chances of a freed felon committing another felony are such that handing them .. a job in retail is very risky. I wonder what could be a cause of recidivism, could it be we strip people convicted of crimes of any meaningful legal ways to provide for themselves there by ensuring the self filling prophecy they they will commit more crimes in our overly criminalized society... It would amusing if it was not so sad and infuriating that people like you fail to see the plain logic trap you set.... >>>So what should be done? That is both easy and hard 1. Decrminalization of society. Victimless "crimes" should not be a crime at all, if the State can not point to a human that stands up and says "This person did X to me" then there is no crime. 2. Actual rehabilitation including Job training. Less focus on punishment 3. Restructure Welfare programs to encourage family units, today welfare programs encourage single parent homes which leads to higher crimes. 4. END THE WAR ON DRUGS, which is really part of number 1 but I feel it needs to be restated. 5. Allow for a path to expungement, most states do not or it take 20 years, should be much shorter. With non-felony crimes being sealed instantly on release. With maybe a 3 strike policy for repeat offenders where after 3 non-felony convictions their record is public. 6. Re-Categorize felony class crimes back to what they were intended, VIOLENCE, legally any crime with more than a 1 year sentence is a felony, but decades of "tough on crime" laws has pushed all manner of non-violent offenses into felony levels of punishment. That is a start... any 1 of the above would have a huge impact, sadly none of them will ever happen

by syshum 5y ago

bdcravens 5y ago

A lot of cancellation happens for those with felonies on their record.

randyrand 5y ago
Personally, i’d rather lose my rights to guns and voting than lose the ability to fly. I’m already self employed not by choice. Am i missing something? Due process is also nice.
syshum 5y ago
This whataboutism while true is not really revelant here Further do you believe I would agree with this cancellation I do not, if a person is a danger to others they should be in prison, if they have deemed by the system to not be a danger thus are free to roam among us they should have all of their rights and privileges of a free person restored to them
- bagacrap 5y ago
  The incidence of recidivism is extreme. The chances of a freed felon committing another felony are such that handing them a gun or a job in retail is very risky. Yet the alternative, keeping them in prison forever, is clearly not fair. So what should be done?
  - syshum 5y ago
    >>The incidence of recidivism is extreme hmmm >>The chances of a freed felon committing another felony are such that handing them .. a job in retail is very risky. I wonder what could be a cause of recidivism, could it be we strip people convicted of crimes of any meaningful legal ways to provide for themselves there by ensuring the self filling prophecy they they will commit more crimes in our overly criminalized society... It would amusing if it was not so sad and infuriating that people like you fail to see the plain logic trap you set.... >>>So what should be done? That is both easy and hard 1. Decrminalization of society. Victimless "crimes" should not be a crime at all, if the State can not point to a human that stands up and says "This person did X to me" then there is no crime. 2. Actual rehabilitation including Job training. Less focus on punishment 3. Restructure Welfare programs to encourage family units, today welfare programs encourage single parent homes which leads to higher crimes. 4. END THE WAR ON DRUGS, which is really part of number 1 but I feel it needs to be restated. 5. Allow for a path to expungement, most states do not or it take 20 years, should be much shorter. With non-felony crimes being sealed instantly on release. With maybe a 3 strike policy for repeat offenders where after 3 non-felony convictions their record is public. 6. Re-Categorize felony class crimes back to what they were intended, VIOLENCE, legally any crime with more than a 1 year sentence is a felony, but decades of "tough on crime" laws has pushed all manner of non-violent offenses into felony levels of punishment. That is a start... any 1 of the above would have a huge impact, sadly none of them will ever happen