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> Loyalist refugees Weren't a lot of them criminals that were offered to leave the US? Or who harbored allegiance to a foreign regime? Wouldn't use the term "r

> Loyalist refugees Weren't a lot of them criminals that were offered to leave the US? Or who harbored allegiance to a foreign regime? Wouldn't use the term "refugee" for that... > the Canadian tradition of "peace, order, and good government" Citation needed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Canada_Rebellion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Canada_Rebellion https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-discovered/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-grav... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_the_Parliament_Buildings_in_Montreal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_the_Parliament_Buil...

salamandersauce 5y ago
The Loyalists were people loyal to the English monarchy. They didn't harbour allegiance to a foreign regime but the current one. They fled because they were on the losing side of the war.
- cmrdporcupine 5y ago
  And not even necessarily to the English monarchy, just opposed to the American revolution or some aspects of it, or suffering economically because of it. Refugees is precisely the right word for many (not all) of them.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  Ad on the losing side of history as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre
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wk_end 5y ago
“Peace, Order, and Good Government” is the maxim of the Canadian government, like “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” is for the US government, and “Liberté, égalité, fraternité” is for the French. Pointing out that it hasn’t always lived up to that (nor have the US and France of course) is a non sequitur here.

salamandersauce 5y ago

The Loyalists were people loyal to the English monarchy. They didn't harbour allegiance to a foreign regime but the current one. They fled because they were on the losing side of the war.

cmrdporcupine 5y ago
And not even necessarily to the English monarchy, just opposed to the American revolution or some aspects of it, or suffering economically because of it. Refugees is precisely the right word for many (not all) of them.
908B64B197 5y ago
Ad on the losing side of history as well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Massacre
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wk_end 5y ago

“Peace, Order, and Good Government” is the maxim of the Canadian government, like “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” is for the US government, and “Liberté, égalité, fraternité” is for the French. Pointing out that it hasn’t always lived up to that (nor have the US and France of course) is a non sequitur here.