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> CPU water coolers are cheap because the mounting is pretty much standardized. A GPU requires a unique mounting bracket for each model although you can buy GPU

> CPU water coolers are cheap because the mounting is pretty much standardized. A GPU requires a unique mounting bracket for each model although you can buy GPUs that come with a AIO water loop installed for premium. True RE Optical vs Magnetic: Unless someone has some good hard data to show me (I'm honestly very interested in seeing more numbers on this subject), I'm going to continue to assume high quality optical media is going to last longer and require less special treatment than hard drives, tapes, etc. Flash media lasts even less time. Yes, information density is lower on optical, so it really depends what you are backing up. If your concern is rolling backups of an entire prod server worth of customer records perhaps don't choose optical, however that's so far from what we're talking about in this thread that I don't see why it would influence your decision making process. However, if the goal is to backup a save file, or some old family photos, optical is still my go-to. > Anything plugged into the front panel just looks bad LOL OK, so I need to dig around in back every time I need to plug in my headphones? Really?! Perhaps you just make the back the new front, I've done that on a few rigs in the past. > Not sure what you mean about fan placement since most cases are designed to operate with positive pressure which reduces the amount of dust collected. Interesting, I hadn't considered that before. I'll have to test that out on my next rebuild. That being said, I doubt the OP has positive interior pressure, since there are two "lower speed fans on the radiator" for intake, and three pushing out from the top.

podiki 5y ago
I'm not sure what the pressure would be. And there are dust filters everywhere but the rear fan (which is exhaust anyway). The fans are pretty similar, and at least by count: 5 intake (2 radiator, 3 bottom), 4 exhaust (3 on top, 1 rear), plus GPU exhaust (not counting the power supply since it is behind everything). There are some tests on YouTube of this case and running the radiator as intake if it is on the side was better for thermals, from there I think the way I have it at least isn't the worst setup. Open to suggestions, but as I wrote, thermals are quite good (to me).
- nixpulvis 5y ago
  Ah yes, I was looking at the incomplete build, sorry for my sloppy comment. This thing has so many fans I can't imagine having air flow issues. Like I said, don't get me started about fans, rofl. Since you have a cat, I'm sure you'll be cleaning out those filters quite often, as I do. Can you share your GPU (under load) temps, or did I miss those as well? I hope I wasn't coming off too negatively on your build. I'm still reeling about my last build, which was quite similar.
  - podiki 5y ago
    No worries! I haven't built something with so many fans before, but it looked empty without them so I went all in. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure some of them (like the bottom ones) ramp up as needed, since they will go on CPU temp on the motherboard control I think (which won't be high in games when it is the GPU being taxed more). Since I moved the computer on to the desk I'm hoping it won't get as much dust and hair as on the floor. I haven't looked at GPU temps much so far, but the last screenshot of Red Dead Redemption 2 shows 81 C. From my quick searches that seems quite reasonable for the 6700XT. Maybe I can tweak some fan settings to improve that a bit, but that should be well below any throttling or stability temperatures. Edit: 81 C probably not being the peak junction temperature, I'm guessing, not sure what Mango is using by default. In that same instance the CPU is only 51 degrees.
- scns 5y ago
  The thermically better solution might net you 2°K. Getting an aftermarket AIO for the GPU would make a bigger difference IMHO. The voltage converters for CPU & GPU (if not full block) need a bit if airflow though.
scns 5y ago
Optical media have a life expectancy around ten years IIRC. For long term storage of huge amounts of data, tape rules supreme, until these writable quartz (IIRC) discs become feasible.

podiki 5y ago

I'm not sure what the pressure would be. And there are dust filters everywhere but the rear fan (which is exhaust anyway). The fans are pretty similar, and at least by count: 5 intake (2 radiator, 3 bottom), 4 exhaust (3 on top, 1 rear), plus GPU exhaust (not counting the power supply since it is behind everything). There are some tests on YouTube of this case and running the radiator as intake if it is on the side was better for thermals, from there I think the way I have it at least isn't the worst setup. Open to suggestions, but as I wrote, thermals are quite good (to me).

nixpulvis 5y ago
Ah yes, I was looking at the incomplete build, sorry for my sloppy comment. This thing has so many fans I can't imagine having air flow issues. Like I said, don't get me started about fans, rofl. Since you have a cat, I'm sure you'll be cleaning out those filters quite often, as I do. Can you share your GPU (under load) temps, or did I miss those as well? I hope I wasn't coming off too negatively on your build. I'm still reeling about my last build, which was quite similar.
- podiki 5y ago
  No worries! I haven't built something with so many fans before, but it looked empty without them so I went all in. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure some of them (like the bottom ones) ramp up as needed, since they will go on CPU temp on the motherboard control I think (which won't be high in games when it is the GPU being taxed more). Since I moved the computer on to the desk I'm hoping it won't get as much dust and hair as on the floor. I haven't looked at GPU temps much so far, but the last screenshot of Red Dead Redemption 2 shows 81 C. From my quick searches that seems quite reasonable for the 6700XT. Maybe I can tweak some fan settings to improve that a bit, but that should be well below any throttling or stability temperatures. Edit: 81 C probably not being the peak junction temperature, I'm guessing, not sure what Mango is using by default. In that same instance the CPU is only 51 degrees.
scns 5y ago
The thermically better solution might net you 2°K. Getting an aftermarket AIO for the GPU would make a bigger difference IMHO. The voltage converters for CPU & GPU (if not full block) need a bit if airflow though.

scns 5y ago

Optical media have a life expectancy around ten years IIRC. For long term storage of huge amounts of data, tape rules supreme, until these writable quartz (IIRC) discs become feasible.