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I feel that if we can could work on introducing more online cross-play, the gaming community would be a better place. There should be no reason why I can't pla

I feel that if we can could work on introducing more online cross-play, the gaming community would be a better place. There should be no reason why I can't play online with Xbox and PlayStation players.

cmeacham98 5y ago
At least on Playstation, that is 100% Sony's fault. They refuse to let you have cross-platform play unless your game is huge. Unsure if Microsoft has/had similar policies for Xbox games.
- dyingkneepad 5y ago
  That doesn't make sense. The main reason in favor of letting cross-platform play is exactly unfragmenting the player base. I'm sure I'll never run out of PS4 players to fight against in Fortnite or CoD of whatever, but I simply can't find an opponent when I play Skullgirls on PS4, while on Steam I can. Games with a small population benefit immensely from crossplay. That said, if I'm on a PS4 (a platform where cheating is much harder than PC) and the game is well populated, maybe I don't want to play against PC players, as I don't want cheaters. There's also the mouse+keyboard vs pad thing for FPS games.
  - nitrogen 5y ago
    There's also the mouse+keyboard vs pad thing for FPS games. You can get adapters for older consoles that will convert mouse+keyboard input to control pad input. I haven't used consoles in years, so I'm not sure if they're available for newer generations.
  - mmis1000 5y ago
    Either mouse people destroy the controller people totally. Or the controller people destroy the mouse people totally because aim support is too strong. Balance between these two never works. Apex has this problem almost since forever after allowing mix of these two.
- Cu3PO42 5y ago
  In the PS3/XBOX 360 days it was Microsoft who were all against cross-platform play whereas Sony was more open to it. In the early days of that console generation, XBOX was arguably more successful than PS. Now PS is more successful. The pattern is that the player ahead doesn't want cross-platform and the one behind does. That makes sense to me.
bastard_op 5y ago
There is no incentive to let you out of the Sony/Xbox walled gardens, unless you're Fortnite where everyone from children to adults love to spend stupid money on IAP's just to dance or clothe themselves and you don't want to miss out. If they did, and you realized your game runs better on a real pc, you'd just defect and not beg/borrow/scam/hustle for a ps5 or new xbox (maybe for decent gpu still though). You will take what they give you and be goddamn content with it. Unless you're Epic and even Sony gives up the GI Joe kung fu grip.
- eric__cartman 5y ago
  The lack of cross-play always bugged me. Usually a friend group settles on a particular platform to buy so they can all play together, which is a pain because in a lot of cases that platform is far from ideal for everyone. For example consoles always seemed quite useless to me because I only casually play games, so when I'm not playing games I have this expensive and powerful x86 computer doing nothing because I can't use it for anything else but playing games and maybe watching movies. I wish Sony had kept the "install another OS" option that they introduced for a while in the PS3. Fortunately my friends are PC gamers too so no locked down hardware in my house :)
schmorptron 5y ago
Lots and lots of games, and most new big ones coming out, have cross-play. Apex, CoD, Rocket League jus to name a few.

cmeacham98 5y ago

At least on Playstation, that is 100% Sony's fault. They refuse to let you have cross-platform play unless your game is huge. Unsure if Microsoft has/had similar policies for Xbox games.

dyingkneepad 5y ago
That doesn't make sense. The main reason in favor of letting cross-platform play is exactly unfragmenting the player base. I'm sure I'll never run out of PS4 players to fight against in Fortnite or CoD of whatever, but I simply can't find an opponent when I play Skullgirls on PS4, while on Steam I can. Games with a small population benefit immensely from crossplay. That said, if I'm on a PS4 (a platform where cheating is much harder than PC) and the game is well populated, maybe I don't want to play against PC players, as I don't want cheaters. There's also the mouse+keyboard vs pad thing for FPS games.
- nitrogen 5y ago
  There's also the mouse+keyboard vs pad thing for FPS games. You can get adapters for older consoles that will convert mouse+keyboard input to control pad input. I haven't used consoles in years, so I'm not sure if they're available for newer generations.
- mmis1000 5y ago
  Either mouse people destroy the controller people totally. Or the controller people destroy the mouse people totally because aim support is too strong. Balance between these two never works. Apex has this problem almost since forever after allowing mix of these two.
Cu3PO42 5y ago
In the PS3/XBOX 360 days it was Microsoft who were all against cross-platform play whereas Sony was more open to it. In the early days of that console generation, XBOX was arguably more successful than PS. Now PS is more successful. The pattern is that the player ahead doesn't want cross-platform and the one behind does. That makes sense to me.

bastard_op 5y ago

There is no incentive to let you out of the Sony/Xbox walled gardens, unless you're Fortnite where everyone from children to adults love to spend stupid money on IAP's just to dance or clothe themselves and you don't want to miss out. If they did, and you realized your game runs better on a real pc, you'd just defect and not beg/borrow/scam/hustle for a ps5 or new xbox (maybe for decent gpu still though). You will take what they give you and be goddamn content with it. Unless you're Epic and even Sony gives up the GI Joe kung fu grip.

eric__cartman 5y ago
The lack of cross-play always bugged me. Usually a friend group settles on a particular platform to buy so they can all play together, which is a pain because in a lot of cases that platform is far from ideal for everyone. For example consoles always seemed quite useless to me because I only casually play games, so when I'm not playing games I have this expensive and powerful x86 computer doing nothing because I can't use it for anything else but playing games and maybe watching movies. I wish Sony had kept the "install another OS" option that they introduced for a while in the PS3. Fortunately my friends are PC gamers too so no locked down hardware in my house :)

schmorptron 5y ago

Lots and lots of games, and most new big ones coming out, have cross-play. Apex, CoD, Rocket League jus to name a few.