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I wish I could pay $20/month for Gmail without the spying and data collection, actual customer support, with a guarantee that my account wouldn't get locked bec

I wish I could pay $20/month for Gmail without the spying and data collection, actual customer support, with a guarantee that my account wouldn't get locked because of one of their fucking mistakes.

rubyist5eva 5y ago
fastmail is a fantastic email service, and much cheaper than that.
- lom 5y ago
  It’s not only about gmail. The google suite is unbeatable in terms of functionality and UX.
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    GP said Gmail not GSuite. Also GSuite for a single user is also much cheaper than what he is asking for.
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    also, I personally find Google's design language atrocious
reilly3000 5y ago
I pay $11 / mo and have all of those things. GSuite/Workplace doesn’t run any ads or extraneous tracking, their corporate customers would never allow it.
- afandian 5y ago
  I used to, before leaving for fastmail. But it's a joke to suggest that you get any meaningful support for your money. And I don't think that my account would get better treatment than a free one if they decided to delete it for some reason.
  - meibo 5y ago
    What do you mean by that? I run a basic GSuite organization and the two times I've had an issue with the service, I literally had a representative on either chat or phone support within minutes. It was a very pleasant experience. Happy to spend my money on that. They did have to transfer me twice for a technical issue, but that was resolved too in the end.
    - afandian 5y ago
      I had a google suite account (with one email user) for years. I had used the account to purchase stuff on Google Play. I wanted to close the GSuite organization account but retain the purchases. Either by transferring to another (disposable) gmail account, or by somehow closing the organization account but continuing to be able to log into other parts of google using a now-third-party email addresss. Or a refund. I don't know what options were available, that's why I contacted support. So this was a transactional support request, not a Q&A. I did get through to a chat support but their answer was pretty much "I don't know, check the support forums". I'm not trying to make my point about the situation, more about the customer experience I got for trying to ask what I imagine is a fairly common question. (I feel like an idiot for spending money on DRM, but different story)
      - reilly3000 5y ago
        Could you get the same email with a different host and create a Google account with it? This is me realizing I’m probably locked in for eternity…
        afandian 5y ago
        I still don't know! Will Google give you the mechanism to ask your question? Will you trust the answer? Will you take that gamble?
        reilly3000 5y ago
        This prompted a bit of searching on my part and I found the following: 1. Migrating core assets: https://www.39digits.com/migrate-g-suite-account-to-a-personal-google-account https://www.39digits.com/migrate-g-suite-account-to-a-person... 2. Sharing Play purchases via family sharing https://www.quora.com/Can-you-transfer-your-Google-Play-purchases-to-another-account https://www.quora.com/Can-you-transfer-your-Google-Play-purc... 3. Migrating YouTube channel between accounts via Brand Channels https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en So it appears there is no one-click or Google support method for migration to a personal Google account and you cannot ever have a Google account with the same email address except for reactivation of a Workplace subscription. You can move virtually everything with Takeout and use account sharing features for the rest (so long as you have a small family…).
afandian 5y ago
Then it wouldn't be Gmail. Not being flippant. Google's whole business model is predicated on operating like this. An accountable Google would probably be a very different company with different products.

I wish I could pay $20/month for Gmail without the spying and data collection, actual customer support, with a guarantee that my account wouldn't get locked because of one of their fucking mistakes.

rubyist5eva 5y ago

fastmail is a fantastic email service, and much cheaper than that.

lom 5y ago
It’s not only about gmail. The google suite is unbeatable in terms of functionality and UX.
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  GP said Gmail not GSuite. Also GSuite for a single user is also much cheaper than what he is asking for.
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  also, I personally find Google's design language atrocious

reilly3000 5y ago

I pay $11 / mo and have all of those things. GSuite/Workplace doesn’t run any ads or extraneous tracking, their corporate customers would never allow it.

afandian 5y ago
I used to, before leaving for fastmail. But it's a joke to suggest that you get any meaningful support for your money. And I don't think that my account would get better treatment than a free one if they decided to delete it for some reason.
- meibo 5y ago
  What do you mean by that? I run a basic GSuite organization and the two times I've had an issue with the service, I literally had a representative on either chat or phone support within minutes. It was a very pleasant experience. Happy to spend my money on that. They did have to transfer me twice for a technical issue, but that was resolved too in the end.
  - afandian 5y ago
    I had a google suite account (with one email user) for years. I had used the account to purchase stuff on Google Play. I wanted to close the GSuite organization account but retain the purchases. Either by transferring to another (disposable) gmail account, or by somehow closing the organization account but continuing to be able to log into other parts of google using a now-third-party email addresss. Or a refund. I don't know what options were available, that's why I contacted support. So this was a transactional support request, not a Q&A. I did get through to a chat support but their answer was pretty much "I don't know, check the support forums". I'm not trying to make my point about the situation, more about the customer experience I got for trying to ask what I imagine is a fairly common question. (I feel like an idiot for spending money on DRM, but different story)
    - reilly3000 5y ago
      Could you get the same email with a different host and create a Google account with it? This is me realizing I’m probably locked in for eternity…
      - afandian 5y ago
        I still don't know! Will Google give you the mechanism to ask your question? Will you trust the answer? Will you take that gamble?
        reilly3000 5y ago
        This prompted a bit of searching on my part and I found the following: 1. Migrating core assets: https://www.39digits.com/migrate-g-suite-account-to-a-personal-google-account https://www.39digits.com/migrate-g-suite-account-to-a-person... 2. Sharing Play purchases via family sharing https://www.quora.com/Can-you-transfer-your-Google-Play-purchases-to-another-account https://www.quora.com/Can-you-transfer-your-Google-Play-purc... 3. Migrating YouTube channel between accounts via Brand Channels https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3056283?hl=en So it appears there is no one-click or Google support method for migration to a personal Google account and you cannot ever have a Google account with the same email address except for reactivation of a Workplace subscription. You can move virtually everything with Takeout and use account sharing features for the rest (so long as you have a small family…).

afandian 5y ago

Then it wouldn't be Gmail. Not being flippant. Google's whole business model is predicated on operating like this. An accountable Google would probably be a very different company with different products.