This is valid and interesting, in fact there are two almost separate problems we have from an environemntal/sustainability point of view: How much energy does a

This is valid and interesting, in fact there are two almost separate problems we have from an environemntal/sustainability point of view: How much energy does a thing cost, and how much waste does it produce. These aren't the same! For instance, a plastic grocery bag costs minimal energy but produces infinite-lifespan waste, while a reusable cloth bag costs like 10,000x energy to produce (between farming cotton, spinning it, weaving it, etc), but if left outside would only last for several years (ie a 1/10,000 lifespan). We have to consider both these tradeoffs! Bioplastic probably is somewhere closer to a happy middle: costs 2x the energy of a tradplastic but lasts 1/10,000 shorter. Admittedly I've made up all these numbers but: all compromises aren't equal, we can do better than we do now, the multipliers matter