> Right now, it’s impossible to be outside comfortably before 20:00 at the earliest. That's true for you. I don't experience that at all, there hasn't been any

> Right now, it’s impossible to be outside comfortably before 20:00 at the earliest. That's true for you. I don't experience that at all, there hasn't been any day this year where I found being outside uncomfortable at 18:00. To the contrary actually, there have been quite some days where it was fine at 18:00 but no longer comfortable at 22:00. We didn't have a particularly warm summer this year, but even in previous years there were very few days where I found it uncomfortably hot outside around dinner time. And I live in .nl, so it's not colder here than in northern Europe. > That’s fine and dandy, but my employer still expects me to be in the office at 9 Maybe we should fix that problem, instead of just shifting it to another group by changing the clock.