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That is not a reasonable criticism. However, Apple is far from the good guy. Look at all the pro China things they have done. People committing suicide after be

That is not a reasonable criticism. However, Apple is far from the good guy. Look at all the pro China things they have done. People committing suicide after being forced to work endlessly. Agreeing to the Great Firewall rules to continue doing business in China. I'm sure it is similar in other countries too. We know the people who make nearly everything we buy are treated not much better than slaves. It is not just China, look at the Nabisco workers, look at the meat processing plants. And largely we don't care. There is no reason extreme pressure couldn't start to force changes at these companies but mostly we are just glad it isn't us. Our whole society has lost all sense of empathy and it is sad.

z3ncyberpunk 5y ago
No no, they putting nets up, can't even suicide anymore. Forced slavery.
simorley 5y ago
> Look at all the pro China things they have done. Just because they follow the rules of another nation doesn't make them 'pro China'. Is Apple 'pro-US', 'pro-EU', 'pro-Saudi Arabia', etc? No, Apple is pro-business/pro-money. They are a company selling products and services around the world. > People committing suicide after being forced to work endlessly. Isn't that Foxconn, a Taiwanese company? > Agreeing to the Great Firewall rules to continue doing business in China.. So you think facebook and apple should moderate content but China shouldn't moderate content? > It is not just China, look at the Nabisco workers A nice save. > There is no reason extreme pressure couldn't start to force changes at these companies but mostly we are just glad it isn't us. Change what? Rather than trying to change individual monopolistic companies, we should allow for more competition so that we can decide where to take our business. We have a problem of monopolies. > Our whole society has lost all sense of empathy and it is sad. Everyone has their own version of empathy. And everyone wants to enforce their version of empathy on everyone else. It's a problem humans and human societies have had forever.
fallingknife 5y ago
Agree, except that we have never had any empathy except for friends an family, or at most people who are similar to us.

z3ncyberpunk 5y ago

No no, they putting nets up, can't even suicide anymore. Forced slavery.

simorley 5y ago

> Look at all the pro China things they have done. Just because they follow the rules of another nation doesn't make them 'pro China'. Is Apple 'pro-US', 'pro-EU', 'pro-Saudi Arabia', etc? No, Apple is pro-business/pro-money. They are a company selling products and services around the world. > People committing suicide after being forced to work endlessly. Isn't that Foxconn, a Taiwanese company? > Agreeing to the Great Firewall rules to continue doing business in China.. So you think facebook and apple should moderate content but China shouldn't moderate content? > It is not just China, look at the Nabisco workers A nice save. > There is no reason extreme pressure couldn't start to force changes at these companies but mostly we are just glad it isn't us. Change what? Rather than trying to change individual monopolistic companies, we should allow for more competition so that we can decide where to take our business. We have a problem of monopolies. > Our whole society has lost all sense of empathy and it is sad. Everyone has their own version of empathy. And everyone wants to enforce their version of empathy on everyone else. It's a problem humans and human societies have had forever.

fallingknife 5y ago

Agree, except that we have never had any empathy except for friends an family, or at most people who are similar to us.