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> it causes me to have unavoidable bias. Admitting you're susceptible to bias is one thing (we all are, I think). Calling it unavoidable makes it seem like som

> it causes me to have unavoidable bias. Admitting you're susceptible to bias is one thing (we all are, I think). Calling it unavoidable makes it seem like something innate and implies you lack free will. I'm curious why you see it as unavoidable.

SamBam 5y ago
It's honestly very self-aware to accept that there are some biases that are very hard to control, or even realize you're being influenced by, and so try to avoid being influenced at all be putting barriers between you and them, like preferring no photos. I think it's fairly self-deluding to simply think you can choose not to let an unconscious bias influence you.
- z3ncyberpunk 5y ago
  Its more sad to watch your display of learned helplessness.
- lostcolony 5y ago
  Extremely self-deluding. Because once you accept you are susceptible to a bias, and you know that a person fits that bias, -what do you do-? You can ask "if this person was (not this bias) what would I do", but -can you be sure-? Do you have an exactly equivalent data point to compare against? Of course not; everyone is a bit unique. Can you be certain, if you pass on the person, it was due solely to the heuristics you've built up around resume and etc, and not you reinterpreting them through your bias? Can you be certain, if you hire a person, it was solely due to the heuristics you've built up around resume and etc, and not you overcompensating to try and account for your bias? It's going to influence you. It -may- not change the outcome, but if you aren't concerned about that, no matter what steps you take, then you're deluding yourself.
throwawayboise 5y ago
Our biases are inherent from millions of years of evolution that gave us the ability to look at another person and instantly form a perception "this person is of my tribe" or "this person is an outsider." It must have had a valuable survival benefit when we were hunter-gatherers but probably not so much today.
mehphp 5y ago
It’s quite likely that we do, in fact, lack free will. To be honest, not even sure how free will would work in theory.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  It doesn't need to be complicated. I don't have free will, but good luck deciding what the meat inside my skull does in response to a given set of inputs, so it doesn't matter.

SamBam 5y ago

It's honestly very self-aware to accept that there are some biases that are very hard to control, or even realize you're being influenced by, and so try to avoid being influenced at all be putting barriers between you and them, like preferring no photos. I think it's fairly self-deluding to simply think you can choose not to let an unconscious bias influence you.

z3ncyberpunk 5y ago
Its more sad to watch your display of learned helplessness.
lostcolony 5y ago
Extremely self-deluding. Because once you accept you are susceptible to a bias, and you know that a person fits that bias, -what do you do-? You can ask "if this person was (not this bias) what would I do", but -can you be sure-? Do you have an exactly equivalent data point to compare against? Of course not; everyone is a bit unique. Can you be certain, if you pass on the person, it was due solely to the heuristics you've built up around resume and etc, and not you reinterpreting them through your bias? Can you be certain, if you hire a person, it was solely due to the heuristics you've built up around resume and etc, and not you overcompensating to try and account for your bias? It's going to influence you. It -may- not change the outcome, but if you aren't concerned about that, no matter what steps you take, then you're deluding yourself.

throwawayboise 5y ago

Our biases are inherent from millions of years of evolution that gave us the ability to look at another person and instantly form a perception "this person is of my tribe" or "this person is an outsider." It must have had a valuable survival benefit when we were hunter-gatherers but probably not so much today.

mehphp 5y ago

It’s quite likely that we do, in fact, lack free will. To be honest, not even sure how free will would work in theory.

maxerickson 5y ago
It doesn't need to be complicated. I don't have free will, but good luck deciding what the meat inside my skull does in response to a given set of inputs, so it doesn't matter.