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Presumably unbundled chargers will be fine with USB-C on everything. It's not proprietary like Apple's chargers and easy to find.

ZekeSulastin 5y ago
… but Apple’s chargers have been USB on the charger side for ages (previously USB-A, currently USB-C). The easy availability of chargers that work with the phones did little to stop the complaints when they were unbundled.
- zepolen 5y ago
  One needs a charger and a cable to charge a phone, so even if you can use the bricks, you'd still wouldn't be able to use existing cables.
sbuk 5y ago
What is proprietary about Apples chargers? They sell USB-A and USB-C wall warts, and their devices happily charge on non-Apple chargers. Their laptop chargers are USB-C and have been for some time. I charge my MBP from a Lenovo power brick. The only proprietary part is the lightning connector.
- zepolen 5y ago
  > What is proprietary about Apples chargers? > The only proprietary part is the lightning connector. > I charge my MBP from a Lenovo power brick Way to avoid the issue at hand, can you charge your iPhone using your Android charger/cable? Laptop chargers aren't the problem, phone chargers are. As you saw, USB-C solved the problems for laptops, it's about time we solve it for phones too.
  - zepto 5y ago
    You can certainly charge an iPhone using an android charger.
    - ewidar 5y ago
      We're talking with no adapters here, as in you have a single plain usb-c charger for all your phones.
      - wutbrodo 5y ago
        Why feed the trolls? It's plainly obvious to everyone here that "charge X with Y" doesn't by default include special adapters or connectors.
        zepto 5y ago
        Not really. The biggest claim is that this measure will reduce e-waste, but that’s a red-herring since the e-waste is in the charger not the cable, and chargers are already interchangeable.
      - rhino369 5y ago
        Not if the cable is built into the power adapter. But if the power adapter just has a USB-C port, then you can charge it using the cable that comes in the iphone box.
  - sbuk 5y ago
    To answer the question, with a usb-c/micro usb cable? No, obviously not. With a Google/Samsung/Anker manufactured wall-wart? Yes! Android "chargers" aren't a thing that I'm aware of with USB-C, just with micro usb, which would be pointless, because the proposed law would make those redundant anyway. When was the last charger sold with a built in cable? And honestly, why is carrying 2 cables such a hardship? I agree that USB-C would be more convenient, but the bluster that is made every time this "issue" comes up really is over the top. Look at it this way; the argument goes that having Lightning cables produces e-waste. Changing to USB-C will render existing Lighting cables useless, thereby producing significantly more e-waste! At this stage both arguments are redundant. As to being labelled a 'troll'; the OP made a factually incorrect statement. I questioned, genuinely, other than the cable, what was proprietary about wall-warts and charging bricks currently made by Apple?
- bad_good_guy 5y ago
  stop being pedantic

ZekeSulastin 5y ago

… but Apple’s chargers have been USB on the charger side for ages (previously USB-A, currently USB-C). The easy availability of chargers that work with the phones did little to stop the complaints when they were unbundled.

zepolen 5y ago
One needs a charger and a cable to charge a phone, so even if you can use the bricks, you'd still wouldn't be able to use existing cables.

sbuk 5y ago

What is proprietary about Apples chargers? They sell USB-A and USB-C wall warts, and their devices happily charge on non-Apple chargers. Their laptop chargers are USB-C and have been for some time. I charge my MBP from a Lenovo power brick. The only proprietary part is the lightning connector.

zepolen 5y ago
> What is proprietary about Apples chargers? > The only proprietary part is the lightning connector. > I charge my MBP from a Lenovo power brick Way to avoid the issue at hand, can you charge your iPhone using your Android charger/cable? Laptop chargers aren't the problem, phone chargers are. As you saw, USB-C solved the problems for laptops, it's about time we solve it for phones too.
- zepto 5y ago
  You can certainly charge an iPhone using an android charger.
  - ewidar 5y ago
    We're talking with no adapters here, as in you have a single plain usb-c charger for all your phones.
    - wutbrodo 5y ago
      Why feed the trolls? It's plainly obvious to everyone here that "charge X with Y" doesn't by default include special adapters or connectors.
      - zepto 5y ago
        Not really. The biggest claim is that this measure will reduce e-waste, but that’s a red-herring since the e-waste is in the charger not the cable, and chargers are already interchangeable.
    - rhino369 5y ago
      Not if the cable is built into the power adapter. But if the power adapter just has a USB-C port, then you can charge it using the cable that comes in the iphone box.
- sbuk 5y ago
  To answer the question, with a usb-c/micro usb cable? No, obviously not. With a Google/Samsung/Anker manufactured wall-wart? Yes! Android "chargers" aren't a thing that I'm aware of with USB-C, just with micro usb, which would be pointless, because the proposed law would make those redundant anyway. When was the last charger sold with a built in cable? And honestly, why is carrying 2 cables such a hardship? I agree that USB-C would be more convenient, but the bluster that is made every time this "issue" comes up really is over the top. Look at it this way; the argument goes that having Lightning cables produces e-waste. Changing to USB-C will render existing Lighting cables useless, thereby producing significantly more e-waste! At this stage both arguments are redundant. As to being labelled a 'troll'; the OP made a factually incorrect statement. I questioned, genuinely, other than the cable, what was proprietary about wall-warts and charging bricks currently made by Apple?
bad_good_guy 5y ago
stop being pedantic