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Fellow anti-DSTers, this is a big win. Samoa might not have a large population but it is the future. In fact, it is already tomorrow there. https://time.is/Sam
by adolph 5y ago
Fellow anti-DSTers, this is a big win. Samoa might not have a large population but it is the future. In fact, it is already tomorrow there.
https://time.is/Samoa https://time.is/Samoa
- chrismorgan 5y agoFoiled! I’m in New Zealand at present and it was still yesterday even here when you posted. WST = UTC+13, NZST = UTC+12, and New Zealand doesn’t move to NZDT (UTC+13) until this Sunday at 2am—unless they choose to scrap daylight savings time with even less notice than Samoa. Fun fact that I just learned: if you work across the DST start transition, you get an hour’s extra pay: https://www.govt.nz/browse/recreation-and-the-environment/daylight-saving/governing-legislation/ https://www.govt.nz/browse/recreation-and-the-environment/da....
- adolph 5y agoThat amount of letters, numbers and date math is thankfully illegal this early in my time zone. But speaking of the anti-meridian, if one were at a pole, how is the date determined? Is tomorrow always a few steps away? Is there a non-calendar measure of days that applies to the whole planet at the same time? Is the number of days best described as the distance of the Earth from an arbitrary and invisible part of space representing New Years? Is that part of space best described by the “25,772-year axial precession of the earth?” [0] 0. https://medium.com/the-long-now-foundation/the-26-000-year-astronomical-monument-hidden-in-plain-sight-9ec13c9d29b5 https://medium.com/the-long-now-foundation/the-26-000-year-a...
- chrismorgan 5y agoIf a plane crashes at the pole, what date and time of death will they record for the survivors?
- teekert 5y agoIf it happened now and I'd be on it, I'd want my tombstone to read 1632405741 for clarity.
- andrewinardeer 5y agoWhy would they bury you as a survivor?
- mig39 5y agoThis is the ultimate dad joke.
- travisgriggs 5y agoYou forgot an e. It’s the ultimate dEad joke. The joke is also pretty timely.
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- jcranmer 5y agoIf you're at the South Pole, you're in the New Zealand time zone, because resupply comes from New Zealand via McMurdo.
- zz865 5y ago> an hour’s extra pay Nice, and on the other side of Daylight savings you dont lose that hour's pay either. That's a good scam.
- 2Gkashmiri 5y agorince and repeat?
- ithkuil 5y agoI'd be anti-DST too if I lived ~14 degrees latitude. How did they get that idea in the first place?
- tommiegannert 5y agoIn Sweden, at 59 degrees, the sunrise and set change so much, that changing DST only twice a year feels a bit silly: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/sweden/stockholm https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/sweden/stockholm Mid-winter: 6h sunlight. Mid-summer: 18h sunlight. One hour more or less really doesn't matter. I wonder which band of countries DST might actually make sense in.
- tim333 5y agoIt was first brought in in Port Arthur, Ontario, 48 degrees north. It sort of works in London, 51 degrees. So around there I guess though I still don't like it much as a Londoner.
- ithkuil 5y agoI live at 44 degrees and DST during summers does make evenings after work more enjoyable but if the same UTC offset was held through winter, I'd be waking kids to school in pitch dark and the extra afternoon sunlight hour will be during work days anyway. The reason people like DST nowadays is quite different from the alleged reasons it has been set up. All people I asked claim that it's all about making the best use of their free time (and few think about the problem of dark mornings on the winter and thus many jump to the conclusion that DST should be abolished but by keeping the summer time of course)
- tim333 5y agoYeah I'm a bit in the all year DST crowd. I'd rather have sun at 4pm than at 8am in the winter as in the morning I'd generally either be snoozing or commuting by something motorized where the dark doesn't matter much.
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- thaumasiotes 5y ago> In fact, it is already tomorrow there. Once a friend in China asked me about the time difference. She was highly amused when I followed up the response (15-16 hours) with the comment 中国就是美国的未来 ["China is the future of America"].
- ncmncm 5y agoChina, which spans 5 hours of "natural time" all operates on Beijing time. In Xinjiang it is dark very late into the morning, and light often well into the wee hours. That is the least of their problems just now.
- thaumasiotes 5y agoWell, no, the morning begins around sunrise just like everywhere else. For example, today morning in Ürümqi began around 8 am. In contrast, morning in Beijing began around 6 am. But this is a joke about the international date line, not a comment on whether you can redefine the difference between night and day by adjusting what your clock says.
- antihero 5y agoAre you anti winter time or anti summer time though? I am anti the clocks going back in winter and making it even darker in the evenings, but some people want to scrap summer time so the evenings are darker all year round!
- ncallaway 5y agoI am anti the clocks moving around. Others can fight about what we call “5pm”, but for the love of everything holy, just stop moving the clocks. I’ll happily ally with whichever side (“anti-winter” or “anti-summer”) that appears most likely to deliver a political victory that ends the madness.
- rafaelturk 5y agomakes a lot of sense..
- WarOnPrivacy 5y agoFor the "Kids go to school in darkness" argument against winter DST: Start schools at the biologically optimal time, not the budgetary one.
- soperj 5y agoDo that for work as well.
- monkeybutton 5y agoFor all of you who work in tech jobs with somewhat flexible hours, I'll let you in on a secret: There's nothing stopping you from doing that now. I banished the time change from my life and get up at the same physiological time all year. Half the year I do 8 to 4 and the other half I do 9 to 5. It's wonderful and I implore you all to try it!
- sjburt 5y agoThe biologically optimal time moves around. People wake near sunrise. DST keeps sunrise at a more consistent time at the expense of moving sunset around.
- UncleOxidant 5y agoI guess I don't understand why countries so close to the equator ever bothered with DST? Day length doesn't vary much in places close to the equator.
- hparadiz 5y agoHawaii doesn't bother with it but it does make it annoying having to remember what the offset is with the mainland since that changes.
- SllX 5y agoI share your position on DST, but wouldn’t treat tropical nations as recommended guidance on DST issues in non-tropical parts of the world. There’s less variance (read: not zero, just substantially less) in their daytime hours than there is in ours.